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I purchased Platinum but use X3...
I know there are many improvements and bug fixes that would make me sense to upgrade from X3 to Plt but here I'm sill running happily my X3e. It runs smoothly and I have learned to live with anomalies.
Many of the new features aren't targeted for me. For example:
Anderton's guitar stuff sounds nice but I record guitars and basses thru Axe FX II. Guitar Rig 5 can do the rest.
Control Bar's Custom module: no need - I have my own utility for that...
Mix recall: this is some serious stuff but I wait until it's tested to death.
Addictive Drums: no need - I have NI KOMPLETE, tons of other drum kits and ability to record real drum kit anytime.
Ready baked loops etc: no need (genre mismatch).
I'm not a typical SONAR user. I use SONAR to record and mix bands but also to produce songs.
I feel SONAR is mature enough software and now I can wait longer before upgrading. It hasn't been the weakest link in my studio since X1 days. It's not hardware or software that is the weakest, slowest or buggiest link - it's ME. :)
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 20:09:45
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I'm not a typical SONAR user. I use SONAR to record and mix bands but also to produce songs.
I feel SONAR is mature enough software and now I can wait longer before upgrading. It hasn't been the weakest link in my studio since X1 days. It's not hardware or software that is the weakest, slowest or buggiest link - it's ME. :)
I think we all can say that and mean it!
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 20:48:33
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I also agree I am the weakest link in my studio too!!
BTW, MixRecall is nice!!
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 20:55:36
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I also thought X3 was very good. But i have not regretted getting on board with Platinum. The improvements to Skylight, Take Lanes, PRV, to name a few are worth it.
And there is nothing wrong with staying with X3. If that's what you want, by all means have fun!!
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 21:31:27
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Grem
I also thought X3 was very good. But i have not regretted getting on board with Platinum. The improvements to Skylight, Take Lanes, PRV, to name a few are worth it.
Has Take Lanes been improved in Platinum?? I haven't noticed any change so far... working as clumsy as before... @panup: The thread title says "purchased." You purchased it but haven't upgraded to it? Unless you don't like the new features (e.g. new FX Rack), I recommend upgrading. Lots of bug fixes (including 15+ year-long ones) will help you work faster.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 21:39:03
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Haha - I suspect I too am the ghost in the machine most of the time panup:)
It is a smart move to hold off on the upgrades, especially if the new features are not of interest. I was working on a project that was started and nearing completion in platinum. Yesterday it would not load, with sonar taking forever to start and then going into some kind of endless window refresh loop. X3 loaded exactly the same project perfectly (and quickly) and I was able to continue working. After rolling back to update 2, the project would again load in Platinum.
I love the new features in Platinum but I am not quite ready to retire X3 completely just yet.
I know there have ben many threads arguing for and against Platinum being slower than X3 so I won't go there again:) Over the years I have noticed that often after several versions these issues disappear without acknowledgement.
Looking forward to our next update:)
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 21:48:05
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> You purchased it but haven't upgraded to it?
I tested it briefly but decided not to install it on my studio PC yet.
One thing I didn't mention in the first post: in X3 I have fine tuned, customized interface colors and gfx. Those customizations don't work in Platinum. So far there hasn't been anything to make me leave my favorite customizations and familiar environment behind...
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 22:23:40
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I'm the weakest link in ANYONE's studio.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 22:28:50
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I broke the link .. But for me the midi enhancements are well worth it .
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/16 23:24:08
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> You purchased it but haven't upgraded to it?
I tested it briefly but decided not to install it on my studio PC yet.
One thing I didn't mention in the first post: in X3 I have fine tuned, customized interface colors and gfx. Those customizations don't work in Platinum. So far there hasn't been anything to make me leave my favorite customizations and familiar environment behind...
Is a shame for those of us who have moved to Platinum that Duckbar doesn't work anymore. It was truly a great addition. Unfortunately for me, just Mix Recall alone is worth more than all the Duckbar enhancements so, I'm staying with Platinum. I miss Duckbar but not enough.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 03:45:29
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I am in a similar boat as the OP. My needs are fairly simple, and after dealing with time investments from "installation overhead," I stopped installing updates at Cambridge. I set a calendar reminder to download the updates each month since I cannot see a clear "rollback" path, and each month only shows the "newest" version in my account.
For things that I do, there is nothing in Platinum that I cannot do in X3.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 04:12:19
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I think heavy MIDI users benefit more from Platinum. MIDI engine has definitely improved, and some annoying MIDI event issues (events' MIDI channels unnecessarily change by simply bouncing the clip, the last controller data in the clip gets hidden from the view by simply moving the clip, etc.) were fixed. I no longer have to worry about these issues. Oh, and don't forget the Smart Mute/Solo drum map functionality.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 06:59:12
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New feature set that would make me install new version:
* customizable Control Bar and FX Bin text colors
* floating empty MultiDock bar (to keep it on the 2nd display all the time)
* Optional1: support PNG images as track/bus icons.
* Optional2: Project report tools to extract track listing, used effects etc. as XML document
* Optional3: Improved Open Safe mode to list all used plugins and let user select/deselect them from a list rather than one by one.
* Alternatively: If SonarMods finishes Duckbar's Platinum compatiblity. But wait, that's my job... And now I haven't enough time to do that.
Little things, especially three first ones.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 07:36:13
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New feature set that would make me install new version:
* customizable Control Bar and FX Bin text colors
* floating empty MultiDock bar (to keep it on the 2nd display all the time)
* Optional1: support PNG images as track/bus icons.
* Optional2: Project report tools to extract track listing, used effects etc. as XML document
* Optional3: Improved Open Safe mode to list all used plugins and let user select/deselect them from a list rather than one by one.
* Alternatively: If SonarMods finishes Duckbar's Platinum compatiblity. But wait, that's my job... And now I haven't enough time to do that.
Little things, especially three first ones.
That's a real good list!!
Grem
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 07:45:40
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agree with all Grem said... mix recall is so awesome... opens up all sorts of stuff and keeps it really organized... I just love it once I tried it.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 07:59:47
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It sounds like every time we get behind someone who is extending Sonars functions by some sort of add on product they succeed and we lose the program we support.
It happened with Ben Staton and the original Sonar mods tool bar, now working for Cakewalk and now with Panup and Duckbar.
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 08:25:55
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Mudgel,
Duckbar will catch up new SONAR as soon as I have time for that project. I let you know when it's ready for "install and forget". :)
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 09:17:00
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Thanks mate. Appreciate the effort but I know it's a side project and you've got your work to do as we all have. Look forward to when you can catch up with Duckbar a bit more.
I'll have to convince you to move up to Platinum. Haha!
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 09:27:38
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Panu, I appreciate all you have done with Duckbar and look forward to it working with Platinum.
Duckbar has been terrific and will be for Plat. That is a given, since you are the one doing the work.
Cheers!
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Re: I purchased Platinum but use X3...
2015/05/17 10:04:03
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Addictive Drums: no need - I have NI KOMPLETE, tons of other drum kits and ability to record real drum kit anytime.
Ready baked loops etc: no need (genre mismatch)....
You own AD regardless of whether or not you use Platinum. Why not avail yourself of these great-sounding drums? Also, just like the "ready-baked (midi) loops" in NI Komplete drum libs, you don't have to use them at all.
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