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May 18, 15 4:54 PM (permalink)

Marker Clips

There have been a few discussions about selecting regions or sections in projects and having a structure map of sorts visible.  I can't remember who first posted this link, but I finally found it again.  Thanks whoever you are!  :)
 
From ~1:02:40 thru 1:05:10 Seth describes this little trick he came up with


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Re: Marker Clips May 18, 15 4:58 PM (permalink)
I miss those webinars.

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Re: Marker Clips May 18, 15 5:14 PM (permalink)
I started watching, but it is X1. I started really using Sonar with Platinum. All the other upgrades since Dos have sat on my computer with little use, due to lack of time and knowledge to dig in. I am retired now, and with the help of training videos from here and Groove 3, I am getting the hang of it. I am afraid of confusing myself with the older version. Thanks for doing this, I am sure there are plenty of guys who will appreciate the effort.

 
 
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Re: Marker Clips May 18, 15 5:22 PM (permalink)
The part of the video I referenced works in all versions.

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Re: Marker Clips May 18, 15 5:37 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK May 22, 15 3:57 AM
Not only do I have a "lane" for markers, but I also have one for chords!
 
I do this so it is easy to play along with - I can see the chords scroll by.  

This is just my starting template.   No, my entire song is not G# lol.
 

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Re: Marker Clips May 20, 15 5:11 PM (permalink)
 I have wanted to have something like this for a long time as the markers themselves are not always easy to see.
 
Thank you for posting! like the chord idea also.
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Re: Marker Clips May 21, 15 3:34 AM (permalink)
Can you make cross track selections groups that incorporate everything in a time range?
Just click this top clip - and everything through project track range can be selected too, in one go.
 
Maybe with one such selection you can insert time as well, to make room.
 
I have to try that next time at Sonar daw.
It would really be a neat start of arranger track stuff like many of us has voted for.
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Re: Marker Clips May 21, 15 11:04 AM (permalink)
The only thing that bothered about this approach is the fact that MIDI tracks can't have a real NONE as their input.  I've been archiving these guide tracks, but that dims the colors.
 
Quite by accident I just "discovered" that I can put these MIDI clips into an audio track-that really can have no input or output.  No need to archive or even change the velocity of the note unless the line bothers you.
 

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Re: Marker Clips May 21, 15 11:19 AM (permalink)
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The only thing that bothered about this approach is the fact that MIDI tracks can't have a real NONE as their input.  I've been archiving these guide tracks, but that dims the colors.
 
Quite by accident I just "discovered" that I can put these MIDI clips into an audio track-that really can have no input or output.  No need to archive or even change the velocity of the note unless the line bothers you.
 




i have these tracks running through an empty drum map, so this way it doesn't trigger anything.
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Re: Marker Clips May 22, 15 10:34 AM (permalink)
I've been using these color markers for several years. Prob saw it on that video...
I used to have to 'mute' this color track to not have it sound.
 
What I do now is put 1 midi note in the clip, then drop the volume down to zero. As I copy/paste that clip for different sections of the song, I'll change the background/foreground colors via the inspector. Never have to mute again.
 
Chord track! Love it and will incorporate  in the future. Just too hard to see chord symbols as a name for a marker.
 
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Re: Marker Clips May 22, 15 11:24 AM (permalink)
Tunerman
I've been using these color markers for several years. Prob saw it on that video...
I used to have to 'mute' this color track to not have it sound.
 
What I do now is put 1 midi note in the clip, then drop the volume down to zero. As I copy/paste that clip for different sections of the song, I'll change the background/foreground colors via the inspector. Never have to mute again.
 
Chord track! Love it and will incorporate  in the future. Just too hard to see chord symbols as a name for a marker.
 
Michael




yea i know, but its better than nothing :)
problem is, when i scroll down i no longer see my top 2 tracks :)
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Re: Marker Clips May 22, 15 11:35 AM (permalink)
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I've been using these color markers for several years. Prob saw it on that video...
I used to have to 'mute' this color track to not have it sound.
 
What I do now is put 1 midi note in the clip, then drop the volume down to zero. As I copy/paste that clip for different sections of the song, I'll change the background/foreground colors via the inspector. Never have to mute again.
 
Chord track! Love it and will incorporate  in the future. Just too hard to see chord symbols as a name for a marker.
 
Michael




 
yea i know, but its better than nothing :)
problem is, when i scroll down i no longer see my top 2 tracks :)


I agree that's the weakest link in the process - I asked Cake to create "header" tracks a while ago - you could designate your two tracks as "header tracks" which would stay at the top of each view like headers in a word document. The arranger track idea would obviously be a better solution. nice idea to use the chord track too.

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Re: Marker Clips May 22, 15 1:49 PM (permalink)
alewgro: "problem is, when i scroll down i no longer see my top 2 tracks :)"
 
I clone the 'color' track and move it to the bottom of all the other tracks so I have 2 of them.
I can now move it around in TV to fit the view of tracks I'm working on. Hide when not needed.
Original one stays on top.

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