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2015/05/22 21:31:29 (permalink)

OSC and Sonar

I had an extra Android 7" tablet that was not doing anything so I downloaded OSC Commander for controlling My RME Totalmix FX.
 
Now I don't have to open a window to adjust the Totalmix when I am in Sonar, and it seems to be working very well, at least after the first day. For 6 dollars I have to say this thing (OSC Commander) rocks.
 
In fact, I like it so much I want to pickup another tablet for controlling the faders on Sonar. But OSC Commander has no Sonar template available, just Totalmix and Reaper.
 
I did some internet searches to find an Android OSC for Sonar and it seems a little vague. I really don't see any product that comes out and says they have templates ready to go for Sonar.
 
So I guess the question is "does anyone have any experience with OSC / Android / Sonar ?"
 
Another question I ask is why is it that Cakewalk does not sell the tablet OSC software?  There is another thread going on right now about who uses the Console view. Well, with a well written OSC tablet program, I think many people would love to have those flying faders available. In my opinion (which I admit is based on theory and not so much practice) this is way better than a series of Mackie or Behrigner MIDI mixers, because it is less cluttered and more flexible.
 
BTW, I am so glad I put out the money for my Fireface UCX.  It is really stable, almost no latency, has a complete internal mixer with basically no latency and with reverb, controlled by software. So the physical mixer on my desktop is history. I just love to have a clean desktop. And the sound is professional level. I should have made this move long ago.
 
 
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    Doktor Avalanche
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/22 22:13:24 (permalink)
    I use Touchdaw in android.
    I notice Touchdaw has 10,000 paid customers and OSC just has 100 customers. I'm not sure though which is the better product not tried OSC.

    Why is Cake not doing this? Well probably because somebody else is already doing it.
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/22 22:16:26 (permalink)
    Looks like I might not be comparing eggs with eggs though? Guess I need to read up.
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/23 00:14:49 (permalink)
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    Looks like I might not be comparing eggs with eggs though? Guess I need to read up.



    I'm not sure what you are saying, eggs to eggs. But thanks for taking an interest in my questions.
     
    I looked at TouchDAW and it seems to be DAW oriented. But I didn't see anything Sonar specific.
     
    Was it a lot of work to get it to function with Sonar? Does it work very well? The cost to buy is small but the time involved could be huge if its not well integrated to Sonar.
     
    BTW, thanks for letting me know about the number of paid customers. I am new to Android Marketplace.
    post edited by pharohoknaughty - 2015/05/23 12:07:32
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/23 01:14:38 (permalink)
    I'd be interested in finding a solution as well.
     
    I think Android needs more serious media tools anyway... they seem to have a gap that needs filled compared to i-foot.
     
     

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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/23 04:21:07 (permalink)
    Does Sonar support OSC? Where can we find this info? What parameters are available and what naming is used? TouchDAW is midi based, not OSC, AFAIK.
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/23 10:02:52 (permalink)
    Yup TouchDAW is MIDI based, wrong egg for the OP I suspect.
    I still recommend it.
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    Re: OSC and Sonar 2015/05/23 11:56:48 (permalink)
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    Yup TouchDAW is MIDI based, wrong egg for the OP I suspect.
    I still recommend it.





    OK  now I understand what you mean.
     
    I spent more time reading the TouchDAW documentation, and of course you are right TouchDAW is not an OSC product, although on the surface it resembles my OSC Commander. I think I was also confused during my late night searches because there is also a (unrelated) product called TouchOSC.
     
    Evidently to use TouchDAW, you install midi over lan type drivers in Windows called RTPmidi. Then TouchDAW communicates with the RTPmidi to emulate a Mackie Control in Sonar Preferences/ MIDI / Control Surface.
     
    Direct support for a Sonar version is mentioned in the documentation of TouchDAW. So you end up with a tablet that emulates Mackie Control via wifi to MIDI bridge to Sonar. Actually the tablet is also possible to connect by USB cable or Bluetooth besides Wifi.
     
    Now that I understand a little better, OSC has not become so popular with DAWs. Reaper and Digital Performer support OSC, but Cubase and Sonar do not.
     
    There are several internet articles about using OSC on DAWs using a MIDI to Wifi bridge and Mackie Control emulation.
     
    I think I will lay low and see what happens as far as touchscreen control of Sonar.  At this point using the mouse seems to do the job even if it is not so much fun. I remember so many lost hours the last few times I tried to control Sonar with midi faders. Lots of Sonar users have been successful but not me.
     
    I still think it would be a win / win if Cakewalk offered a nice tightly integrated tablet controller solution. I would pay them a license fee for it.
     
    Thanks Doktor for making me aware of all of this.
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