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2015/04/30 13:20:43 (permalink)

Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1

Yeah, I know... Get over it...

I don't like win8 but was gifted a laptop with it and I'm managing...

But I keep thinking of upgrading to 8.1

What keeps stopping me are seeing so many warnings of the process...

Is the upgrade really that risky?

Is it worth the risk to overcome win8 issues?

I coukd really use some info and opinions here if anyone would care to share their thoughts...

Thanks!
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/04/30 14:11:14 (permalink)
Why not just wait for the release of the new version of Windows scheduled for this summer, which is supposed to be free if you upgrade within a year of the release. Then you can suffer through the agony of the upgrade only once. Of course you will need to upgrade to Win 8.1 in order to install Windows 10, but you can do it immediately prior to installing 10.
 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about
 
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/windows-10-release-date-price-news-and-features-1029245
 
 
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/04/30 14:16:07 (permalink)
When I upgraded my box from 8 to 8.1 it was simple as a service pack ...
 
 

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/04/30 16:07:41 (permalink)
Keni, I was in a similar situation as you on upgrading from 8 to 8.1 for the simple fact that the onboard video drivers in Win 8 crashed my brand new machine. So, I was very reluctant to do the 8.1 install (especially after geting a stable Win 8 machine going with a dedicated video card), but after about 9 months of putting it off, I finally took the plunge.
 
Results were excelent and 8.1 seems to be much more stable......no issues for the past 16 months.    

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/04/30 18:37:01 (permalink)
Same here...my upgrade from 8 to 8.1 was smooth....
Of course I cloned my drive before doing it...but didn't
need the clone...so all went well.


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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/01 09:18:14 (permalink)
I installed a pre release version of 8.1 with no issues and updated 5 pcs after release. Everything went well for me. Pretty seamless upgrade and worth it for me.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/01 13:18:58 (permalink)
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Why not just wait for the release of the new version of Windows scheduled for this summer, which is supposed to be free if you upgrade within a year of the release. Then you can suffer through the agony of the upgrade only once. Of course you will need to upgrade to Win 8.1 in order to install Windows 10, but you can do it immediately prior to installing 10.
 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about
 
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/windows-10-release-date-price-news-and-features-1029245
 
 


Thanks Slartibartfast...

I've been considering that as well...

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/01 13:20:38 (permalink)
Thanks guys...

For some reason the upgrade notices all give a lot of warnings and precautions...

With my limited web access right now, I might wait for 10, but we'll see...

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/02 19:53:59 (permalink)
I just want to say that the new insider preview of windows 10 is really great. Tho I wouldn't recommend installing it for you, this is coming this summer and I recommend it then.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/02 23:02:40 (permalink)
Thanks Jarsve...

I looked through some articles about 10 and I'm feeling at this point I may as well wait for it...

I just dislike 8 so much! ;-)

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/02 23:20:19 (permalink)
I have a fear of upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10.  I just received an offer to do that for free from Microsoft.  Price is right, but peril is what scares me, especially with a very complicated music machine.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 01:00:14 (permalink)
Yeah....

I know how you feel. I have a win7 setup for my DAW and win8 on my laptop...

I wonder why I haven't received the Microsoft offer?

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 06:36:43 (permalink)
I have my main PC with dual boot, Win 7 64 bit and Win 8.1 64 bit.  Sonar (X3 and now Platinum) runs equally well on both.  All my hardware also works in both OS'.  
 
January of 2014 the motherboard went out in my main system (luckily under warranty) and I had to use my backup system while waiting for the replacement motherboard.  My backup system has Win 8.1 64 bit on it.  I never missed a beat recording.
 
One difference, I have "Start8" installed on my Windows 8.1 systems and that allows booting directly to the desktop and it makes 8.1 look like Windows 7 (same start menu).
 
I have Win 10 pre-release (10074) installed on a separate hard drive on my backup system.  I have the Sonar Command Center and Platinum installed on that for testing.  What I can determine it works without problems.  The Start menu in Win 10 is sort of a hybrid Win7/Win 8.1 and I would call it more 8.1.  However as this is still pre-release who knows what the final version will contain or look like.  From the info that has been released, it looks like Win 10 will boot to the desktop if no touch screen is detected. 
 
 
Lots of information on Windows 10 on the Windows 10 forum
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 06:54:46 (permalink)
Just upgrade..
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 11:53:56 (permalink)
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One difference, I have "Start8" installed on my Windows 8.1 systems and that allows booting directly to the desktop and it makes 8.1 look like Windows 7 (same start menu).
 
From the info that has been released, it looks like Win 10 will boot to the desktop if no touch screen is detected. 
 
Lots of information on Windows 10 on the Windows 10 forum
http://www.tenforums.com/



That's really helpful.  Thanks for mentioning all that.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 16:26:43 (permalink)
To upgade to 10 when it comes out is free for all 7, 8 and 8.1 users. What's out now is just a Beta testing preview. To get free upgrade you have to have a valid license for the previews ones, but you don't have to have that installed. A clean install works perfectly. Be a little patient and this will bee fine in its time.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/03 16:43:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jbow 2015/05/16 15:06:51
Windows 8/8.1 has been awesome. Already loving Windows 10 from the articles (won't be doing the preview this time) and looks like it will be another home run for MS.
 
As for upgrading to 8.1, totally worth the update. The interface changes and boot to desktop are well worth it.
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/05 10:13:59 (permalink)
8.1 get's little love from many but it has my seal of approval.

Looking forward to getting the Win 10 preview soon.

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/05 23:30:01 (permalink)
8.0 wasn't that great. Win 8.1.1 is great, made the OS work pretty much perfect. UI is wonderful and quicker to use than Win 7. The people who said Win 7 is better never spent the time learning how to use it efficiently.
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/16 15:01:56 (permalink)
I'm running 8.1 with no trouble at all. I didn't upgrade to it though but I wouldn't worry about it. I have Windows updates turned off. I'm not changing anything in the OS or anything else other than Cake or plugin software unless I get an OK from Jim... (if it ain't broke, don't fix it... right?). I would recommend 8.1 though.
 
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/23 21:06:18 (permalink)
Thanks Gang...

With my current internet limitations, I've kind of put this off... Go directly to 10? Good planning with this web limits, but how long?

I might try the 8.1 update if I can be awake at the right time... But then I'm wondering how good an idea is it to do this on battery? My limited download access is from 3-8am, but I only have electric from 8pm-12am... Sheesh... What a load of issues! ;-)

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/23 21:49:00 (permalink)
At this point you may as well wait for 10. I've been debating reinstalling Windows 8.1 on the studio computer but with 10 right around the corner, I'll just be formatting again so there is really no point right now. I'm hoping that companies will be on the ball with drivers and there shouldn't be any issues with software.
 
I've always been an early adopter of new Windows versions even on the larger, more dramatic ones like Vista and 8. Never once had a major issue with doing so.
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 01:22:03 (permalink)
Actually I've always moved ahead as money allowed...

...until win8 which I don't really like. I only have it because I was gifted the laptop with it... Which has an I-5 quad.

When I saw the upgrade to 8.1 notice, there were so many warnings that I thought I'd ask around a bit as its so hard for me to download things these days.

When is win10 supposed to release?

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 04:41:53 (permalink)
So far they are saying the end of July but nothing is confirmed. It will depend on how the rest of the development phase goes. The latest patch to the developer preview I heard screwed a couple things up. We should see a release candidate next month though.
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 11:54:28 (permalink)
Thanks TeraSin...

That sounds good... I believe I can wait though I'm wondering if there might be a sudden reason to not want 10 and not able to get 8.1?

I seem to recall some talk about update models that's expected to change with 10?

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 14:31:55 (permalink)
I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 17:16:31 (permalink)
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I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.


Hi Paulo...

I'm sorry you got forced into it but glad it didn't cause you any issues. I'm guessing sometime in some way you gave your permission.. I've seen a few friends get it without realizing it, but it was how they responded to popups that alliwed it to happen...

I'm a bit nervous about 10 as they seem to be moving into a new scheme of some kind according to posts I've read... I'm not sure how I will feel about it.

I'm thinking I will try to do the 8.1 update if I'm awake at the right hour <sigh> and hope it can manage it on battery power...

I'm tired of booting to the touchscreen page as I don't have a touchscreen and currently hope vocal commands arrive before I'm pushed into buying old tech... Touchscreens are a pita though very intuitive... Finger pointing has never been my thing! ;-)

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/24 21:20:45 (permalink)
I use the mouse scrollwheel for touchscreen stuff. Works beautifully. :)
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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/25 05:35:34 (permalink)
I wouldn't touch windows 10 until six to 12 months at least after release... Unless you enjoy working in a bugfest.

8.1 works now. Once you have updated 8.1 please don't forget to run windows update several times until there are no more fixes to install (check after every reboot).

Then do a defrag.

As a preliminary thing you might want to run chkdsk /f first to check for any hard drive issues.

Don't forget to backup first!

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Re: Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 2015/05/25 05:43:07 (permalink)
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I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.


Hi Paulo...

I'm sorry you got forced into it but glad it didn't cause you any issues. I'm guessing sometime in some way you gave your permission.. I've seen a few friends get it without realizing it, but it was how they responded to popups that alliwed it to happen...

I'm a bit nervous about 10 as they seem to be moving into a new scheme of some kind according to posts I've read... I'm not sure how I will feel about it.

I'm thinking I will try to do the 8.1 update if I'm awake at the right hour <sigh> and hope it can manage it on battery power...

I'm tired of booting to the touchscreen page as I don't have a touchscreen and currently hope vocal commands arrive before I'm pushed into buying old tech... Touchscreens are a pita though very intuitive... Finger pointing has never been my thing! ;-)

Keni



Well, I guess I gave it my permission in the sense that I didn't tell it not to do it, but that was only because that option wasn't available. Earlier in the day I had a message on screen that said words to the effect of .....would you like to upgrade to windows 8.1?  "now" or  "remind me later"....... I selected remind me later as the only alternative was "now" - it was a banner message across the screen and I could not do anything else without answering it. Later that day I got the same kind of banner message saying words to the effect of " your computer will be updating in 5 minutes, please save any files you are working on. The update will require your computer to restart several times, it is important that you do not switch off your computer during this time"
 
That was one of the many things that annoyed me about it - they weren't to know that I wasn't out and about somewhere with a low battery time remaining and no way of plugging in - so presumably as it was "important" not to switch off, something not good would have happened had it done so, even though this wouldn't have been through choice.
 
Once it was up and running again a quick www search revealed that I was not the only one to whom this happened and unsurprisingly there was a lot of anger.
 
Anyway, it's all good now. I don't have a touchscreen either, but don't have any problems using win 8. If you are struggling with win8 a bit, this video is quite helpful...
 

 
 
The only things that bugged me in w8 was the stupid charm bar popping up all the time whe I didn't want it to, which is addressed in 8.1 in that you can mostly disable it and the convoluted shutdown procedure, but a quick wwww search revealed how to make your own shutdown "tile" for the start screen, so that problem was easy enough to get round.
 
 
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