pentimentosound
 
Noel's comment about "misusing it", is what has my imagination at the moment.
Michael

I agree. That gets my juices flowing.

karhide

bluzdog

jbow
I was reading a comparison of Drumagog and Trigger 2? (I think it was called Trigger 2). Either  or both of them said it could use drums from any drum program like EDrummer SD2 ADD2 and others to replace drums in a recorded drum track where there is too much bleed or other problems.
I hope it will be simple, easy to use, and able to use any drum sample available. I imagine it will be.
Workflow, it matters.
 
J

I have never used Drumagog but Trigger and Tigger 2 can only use Slate Samples. You can export midi to trigger (pun intended) other programs. Bleed has never been a problem and it's pretty intuitive. I am looking forward to Cake's release.
 
Rocky

That's not true because Slate also released an editor that allows you to user your own samples.

I found a couple of videos, I don't know how I missed this one. I stand corrected. Thanks for the heads up!
 
Rocky

Or in my case, a stuffed animal not cats
Nobody mess with Rowlf
its rough being the keyboard player
 

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Hey guys,
 
I thought I'd 'leak' a few rough sound examples to demonstrate some of the stuff this thing can do. Pardon the "quality." Made these at the kitchen table through laptop speakers :\
 
This is one of the primary workflows. Replacing individual hits in a loop:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cty14in0kbjmhvd/ElectronicToAcoustic.mp3?dl=0
 
This one is an example of creating drums to accompany guitar. It's a fingerpicked pattern. I made the loudest low frequency notes play a kick, and make the snare respond to everything possible to get a rhythmic feel. This approach works well with bongos, etc. also. 
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ooa03nl401gj0p/GuitarAccompany.mp3?dl=0
 
Here's another non-drums example. I grabbed a bunch of sounds from an electronic loop library and set them to trigger based on different notes. The loudest low freq notes trigger a long sample; the other notes trigger an electronic kick.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/55za1vsbmzhowwv/SynthAccompany.mp3?dl=0
 
 

How cool.
This is going to be a fun tool to tinker with.
Your examples just show the possibilities are only bound by imagination.
 

Yeah. It's not a perfect science. But you can get some very fun and useful results on non-drums with some experimenting and creativity.

Wow Bill...this does more than I realized. Thanks for posting!!

Time to practice beat boxing.

donbelisle
I was like MarioD at 1st. I really didn`t see a use for the tool.
But since I like to fingerpick on my guitar, that trick can be used to layer
abstract prcussion over instrumental work.
That`s a great idea, now i`m liking the next update even more. 
Thanks Bill - -

It appears to work nicely with any guitar sound that is percussive and has a well defined attack - nylon string guitar or acoustic triggers it better than electric. I was going to try and sample a pick sound and use it to add more definition to guitar parts. It also works ok with rhythmic acoustic guitar strumming.

Thanks Bill! That ought to get a lot of imagining started! LOL
 
Thanks Noel! That info adds to the flame! LOL Very cool! I can't wait to mess with it.
and
John T - I hadn't even thought of what all could be "replaced", but that really opens the door, there!
Michael

mettelus
You can audio to midi convert now doing freaky tricks like tapping fingers on a table. With DR, now it will be able to tell your thumb from your pinky :)

This was kind of one of the places my mind was going... but this has always been "technically" possible already. However it may be easier.
 
I have always nervously and obnoxiously tapped out beats since I was kid (used to drive my family nuts). I played drums for a while too so I got to really translate all that freaky stuff into proper musical rhythm (albeit somewhat awkwardly). These days I do very well tapping out cool live stuff on my padKontrol (the drums on Beeps Creep was performed totally live with no major MIDI editing on the pK and I had just bought the bugger).
 
The problem is the damned kick. I have to trigger the kick using an "on/off" style "expression" pedal attachment to the pK. It does NOT respond like a kick pedal at all. It double triggers, it drops beats, it's weird as hell to play and it does not allow for double kicking.
 
With this I MAY be able to just put a mic pointed at my gimpy old feet and record the sound of them slapping on the ground and play the upper body parts on the pK. Then just convert the slappy happy footsie recording to whatever kick I want.
 
Again that was probably already possible but this may make it easier and more precise than the older methods.

mettelus
DR is right around the corner (significantly more capable, I am sure), but with X3 and above you can tap a physical surface with say a dynamic mic lying on a towel nearby, then drag/drop that audio clip into a MIDI track. This will yield no pitch bend data (irrelevant for percussion), and will most likely get only one note (unless make a "tonal kit" as John T mentioned); but for a humanized MIDI track to feed a VSTi (especially for just the kick), this does work. You will need need to slide the MIDI data to the correct note on the drum map being used to fire the VSTi correctly.
 
Definitely something to try (especially when DR is here) to alleviate the pedal woes.

I alluded to this in post #42 (I think) in response to another post.
 
Definitely looking forward to the Drum Replacer, though.

Are we there yet, oops - I mean is it here yet😁

Some more information: https://youtu.be/gAovIxnGaI8

It's blowing my mind. I have a mixed stereo loop from Discrete Drums that I love, but can't use because the cymbals are too loud. Replaced the kick, snare, tom, and now they're loud enough to achieve the right balance with the cymbals.
 
And despite my skepticism, it really is zero latency. I guess that's how ARA fits into things. Unless there's some major glitch I haven't found yet with the Drum Replacer, I think it's going to be huge.

snaut2000
Some more information: https://youtu.be/gAovIxnGaI8

hmm... teasers. I know it's greedy but kind of wish for these big feature releases we could get some more in depth vids. I know... probably forthcoming and I'm an impatient obsessive jerk but vids help me understand what I'm getting myself into.
 
I did kind of notice a bit of flamming with the "blend" which is why I'm curious about the details. I figure there is some kind of adjustable transient/attack alignment involved (like VocAlign). Not just a "well you gotta trim the replacement sample juuuuuust right" which is kind of what that looked like.
 
Either way it's looking much easier than what we had previously. I mentioned earlier that I had specific material I want to use this on and a convenient way to do stuff like "whoops... drummy dummy made rim hit here and dropped a kick hit here. I'll just yank a sample from elsewhere and drop 'er in" will be helpful. Even that super short promo showed that's gonna be reasably simple.
 
Thanks, Cakers.