NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it?

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NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it?

I would love to hear peoples experience with these keyboards. Does the latest update change anything? How is it working with SONAR? I will need a new midi keyboard and I have K9U,so...

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/27 11:12:44 (permalink)
    BD, they do look really cool.....
    I've also thought about getting an S-Series as they integrate well with Komplete.....might pick it up later if they go on a nice sale price. 
     
    Jim started a thread on this and you might find it interesting: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Komplete-Kontrol-Standard-m3207659.aspx

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/27 15:40:27 (permalink)
    Mine is great. The keys are wonderful. They are not too hard but dont feel to soft and cheap at all. Software wise I only use the Komplete Kontrol VST now. You can search for sound in all your Komplete synths and samples inside it. Easy to change from one piano to another. Another point is that you get more out of your synths with the built in system. Everything works out of the box.
    But, for now, you can only control Komplete. You can use arpeggios and scales/chords on other synths, but that's it. I hear they are open up for other developers to implement the control features.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/28 02:37:04 (permalink)
    Until third party support really picks up, I don't know that it's worth the price, tbh. It's a good board but it's very comparable to my Impulse boards except about $400 more.
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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/28 10:27:47 (permalink)
    I hear you. I am almost only using Komplete tho. Just EZdrummer and some Cakewalk samples. so if you use others its just a keyboard.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/28 11:08:45 (permalink)
    Thanks guys. The price is the main factor. After they have been around a bit longer maybe the price will come down. Or buy the keyboard and get the upgrade to K10U or some other "worth while" promotion. The always have their half off deal for software in the second half of June so who knows?
     

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 01:39:19 (permalink)
    Hi!
     
    I assume it is "just" a MIDI controller ... or does it come with an ASIO driver to act as a simple soundcard for e.g. a laptop?

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 10:17:27 (permalink)
    The Komplete Kontrol keyboards don't have an onboard audio interface.
    The onboard browsing feature doesn't (currently) work with 3rd party plugins... but works great with Komplete 9/10.
    It's such a simple thing... but a tremendous boost for work-flow.  
    Wading thru thousands upon thousands of sounds can be daunting... and slow creativity to a crawl.
     
    Note that you can control 3rd party virtual instruments (Kontrol Editor can be used to customize all MIDI controls).
    It's just not as instant/seamless...
    Here's hoping NI get 3rd party developers on board... or they come up with a more "Komplete" solution for 3rd-party plugins.  
     
    The key-bed actually feels pretty nice (much better than many inexpensive MIDI controllers)... and the overall build quality is substantial.  The keyboard also has after-touch... which is (sorely) lacking on many MIDI controllers.
     
    The transport controls are nice.
    When you're "in the zone" with a part, it's a great convenience not having to leave the keyboard.
     
    I'd been looking for a quality MIDI controller for a long time (with features similar to the best hardware workstations).
    Thus far, Komplete Kontrol is the best overall solution that I've found.
    I'm anxious to see the new Akai Advance series... 
    It's nice to see development of higher-quality MIDI controllers... with the intention of tight integration with software/plugins.  Seems like this should have happened years ago...
     
     
     

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 10:23:13 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry
    It's nice to see development of higher-quality MIDI controllers... with the intention of tight integration with software/plugins.  Seems like this should have happened years ago...

    shouldn't it! when hardware properly integrates with software it's a whole new ballgame :-) best for me so far is my apc40 with live :-)

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 11:22:24 (permalink)
    Monday will bring a new Komplete promotion according to Uncle E of JRR fame.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 12:24:49 (permalink)
    The Kontrol S keyboards have a fatar keybed..for my 2c its identical to that in the Novation SLII series, ie about as good as you can get.
     
    Anyone who is interested should also be checking out the Akai Advance.
     
    With its built-in display and agnostic view of VST vendor it looks to be the biz.. 

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 12:26:03 (permalink)
    Thanks Jim, that answered a few remaining questions. If it is a quality controller with Komplete integration that helps with the price issue.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 12:28:53 (permalink)
    Good info Mystic38, thanks.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/29 15:29:38 (permalink)
    If you purchase the Komplete Kontrol now, I believe you qualify for a free copy of Komplete 10... or a half-price upgrade to Komplete 10.  I bought just before this promotion started.     Oh well... I still like unit.
    I am looking forward to checking out the Akai Advance.  Sweetwater has the 25-key version in stock.
    I'm interested in the 61-key version...
     
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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/31 03:07:01 (permalink)
    Have you checked out the Akai Advanced???  I've heard folks say it kicks NI in the butt and works/mapped with thousands of vsts. Everything I've seen on this thing is pretty revolutionary and while I don't have either yet, it truely seems to just blows the doors off of anything I've ever imagined
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    It also allows you to run up to 8 vsts per track, which is also pretty huge. Saving these combos and compiling play/song/set lists... and managing it all from the keyboard or ur monitor... it's just awesome and not just limited to NI... although it includes their products!  I'm saving now... even stuff like Albion and Loom is mapped... Just wish/am hoping for an 88 key version.  Lots of folks pushing for this so I hope it evolves...
     
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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/05/31 19:15:04 (permalink)
    I was looking at the Akai Advanced but I'm not convinced about it. You still need to go back to your computer and load the VST inside your DAW before it can be loaded by your keyboard, won't you? Otherwise how will it load the VST into the track the way you want it to such as in Sonar, sometimes I want a Simple Instrument Track, sometimes not which means I'd need to have all my tracks preloaded in Sonar anyway and all this would do is scroll through the sample library for me.
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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/06/02 07:50:46 (permalink)
    Funny that the special offer came along as soon as the AKAI's were on offer..
    I notice that NI is being keen to withdraw features so their keyboard gets exclusive functionality. You can't trigger Arp on Maschine for instance unless you go proprietary, so if you are going third party it's worth checking the keyboard has build in functionality to work around it if you are hooking directly into their products, or stick a real DAW in the middle ;) 

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/06/02 12:08:58 (permalink)
    Jim, Vastman and others thanks for heads up on Akai Advanced. Having K9U, this seemed like a rather simple decision but the Akai is throwing a monkey into the wrench. Doktor A makes some good points too. I didn't get any answer as fast  as I would have liked, but that is because there is more to consider. Maybe I will get the Akai and duct tape my Kore 2 controller to it.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/06/03 23:14:04 (permalink)
    Bass... I think this is a case of watching everything on each, perusing user forums , and buying with the understanding that you may want to try them both.  If I had the duckets, I'd try the Akai first as they've included many if not all the NI products into their system AND zillions of others, whereas NI has done nothing outside of Komplete.  As I'm saving for Vegas at the moment, this tempting new development isn't on the table for awhile but I was intrigued enough to spend hours watching all the Akai stuff and what I came away with is once it scans ur system and identifies the vsts, it includes all the patches you have.  I assume it would include all my pluginguru omnisphere, fm8, zebra, serum, razor, and massive patches... I got that impression but would love to know.
     
    I'm sure I have 10000 arps... would love to access them all from one place. Same for Orchestra stuff... they've got it down to all the different articulations, search wise... that's just tooo cool! 
     
     
     
    Then again, if Komplete is all ur thinkin' bout, it's a toss up.  But Akai is more future proof at the moment and it's their big new play in the marketplace.  Imagine they'll keep updating.
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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/06/05 22:01:09 (permalink)
    I have no real horse in this race. I han't heard of the Akai Advanced before but it sounds like the better choice for the reasons people have pu out there.

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    Re: NI Komplete Kontrol S-Series Keyboards- How Do You Like it? 2015/06/06 00:56:21 (permalink)
    I will be excited to here your report on whatever you do... It's on my agenda... a centralized search system would really help a lot.

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