Automation Envelope Clips.

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2015/02/28 16:38:39 (permalink)
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Automation Envelope Clips.

The envelope clips would have functions like looping (just like groove clips), reverse, invert, drag-stretch, scale, and that funky warping thing Studio One has. It would allow quick copying of envelopes without having to use copy paste. Could also be duplicated of course, once duplicate is implemented, which I trust is at the next update. Right? There would also be integrated envelope sidechaining in each automation lane, to modulate an envelope with another (lanes inside lanes with an automatable crossfade, basically). In addition, there would be a way to select an automation range directly in the automation lane, without having to set a macro control in the effect or instrument.
 
Oh. Needless to say, this would be a great occasion to implement freely curvable automation segments.
post edited by Spencer - 2015/02/28 18:23:25
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/02 22:42:34 (permalink)
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    It's probably been requested before, but I'll give a vote for the ability to use clips as automation containers!
     

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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/08 16:50:57 (permalink)
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    bump
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/09 05:43:30 (permalink)
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    oh yeah, we're also going to need a slide mode for nodes, I don't think there's one now. get to it
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/10 10:20:56 (permalink)
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    there should also be vertical snap settings such as 1/4, 1/7 etc as well as mod maps with musical scale presets, like you see in the alchemy step sequencer.
     
     
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/10 12:45:15 (permalink)
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    oh, one more flash of genius: the ability to create split points throughout a selected time range at any given snap resolution in order to facilitate step programming with the envelopes.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/12 07:18:44 (permalink)
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    bump. I'm basically sending this to the top of the list every day until something is either done or officially announced about cakewalk's intention to remedy the current prehistoric state of the automation system. it doesn't have to be everything above in one go but at least half of it would certainly be a great start.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/12 08:00:51 (permalink)
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    bump. I'm basically sending this to the top of the list every day until something is either done or officially announced about cakewalk's intention to remedy the current prehistoric state of the automation system.

    good luck with that :-)
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/19 23:09:25 (permalink)
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    cheers. one day, pal. one day.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/03/28 03:04:41 (permalink)
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    a-ha! option to display numeric values alongside the automation nodes. knew I was forgetting something
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/04/20 21:19:34 (permalink)
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    instead of cutting split points, maybe it could be better to just have Step Nodes, like in the Absynth envelopes
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/05/29 21:49:21 (permalink)
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    Well, the traditional musicians just got their cool new drum replacer toy. Good for them. How about we're next?
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/05/30 03:17:22 (permalink)
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    Well, the traditional musicians just got their cool new drum replacer toy. Good for them. How about we're next?




    We can dream. I gave the OP 5 stars.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/03 11:46:06 (permalink)
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    Thanks for supporting.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/03 20:55:51 (permalink)
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    I would love this as well.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/04 04:36:04 (permalink)
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    If this is what I think it is I like it. Doesn't FL studio have this? You can move the automation independently of the tracks. That's really useful, because now it's a bit difficult to copy automation data and IMO it should be easier.

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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/04 10:06:43 (permalink)
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    Yes, exactly. My idea is basically taking the best features of the automation systems in FL, Logic, and even synths like Massive, Absynth and Alchemy (some of those may admittedly be somewhat overkill, I'm just throwing my ideas around), and rolling it all into Sonar. With a few twists, like, I don't know of any DAW that lets you select minimum and maximum value directly inside the automation lane.
     
    I have yet another suggestion: each automation lane should have a dedicated MIDI learn function, which would work completely separately from ACT. Or, in other words, which would work.
    post edited by Spencer - 2015/06/04 10:16:57
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/06 23:11:09 (permalink)
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    It would be possible to import and export envelope clips in the browser with drag and drop.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/06/29 07:36:08 (permalink)
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    Someone at cakewalk liked the thread. Guess there's hope.
     
    They can skip the integrated sidechaining I guess - to be fair if I need this level of modulation I can just fire up massive or do it in MUX or something - but honestly pretty much everything else needs to be there
    post edited by Spencer - 2015/06/29 07:43:53
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. 2015/07/17 21:34:09 (permalink)
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    Like, ok here's the deal with step envelopes. Yes it can be done right now, using the Jump setting between breakpoints. There lies the problem though, as it's really annoying having to manually set the segments to Jump one by one. You can't select a bunch of breakpoints and make them Jump because the jump setting is in the segment menu and not the breakpoint menu! Whoever thought that out didn't do his job properly. And even then, we'd also need horizontal snap values to make it really workable.
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