[SOLVED]Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat

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2015/05/30 12:13:12 (permalink)

[SOLVED]Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat

I didn't have this issue before, but now the CPU gets to 95 degrees C during playback... Pushing 200 F.....As soon as I close Sonar it cools down. Just in the time to type this, it has cooled down 10 degrees.... Streaming warms it uip a bit, but not like this. I ordered a new CPU fan(Arctic brand so......sounds cold to me) and it should get here tomorrow. Then I should be fine. 2000-2800 RPM seems slow to me...
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    Jim Roseberry
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/30 13:09:45 (permalink)
    Any substantial application will cause your CPU to overheat under the current circumstances.
     
    Idle temp around 85 degrees C is way too high
    Ideally, you don't want to see temps too far above 75 degrees C when under heavy load.

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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/30 13:56:19 (permalink)
    Most modern CPUs have a temperature sensor which protects from extreme heat.
     
    The Sandy Bridge Core i7-2700K that I use trips in around 75C. At that point it will gate the CPU clock, effectively slowing things down.
     
    All that being said, I often use extremely high CPU tools, like some custom Reaktor things, and I rarely see anything above 60C.

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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/30 13:57:38 (permalink)
    So methinks the current cpu fan is on it's way out. It sits around 75 idling..

     
     
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/30 14:32:13 (permalink)
    OY! It should idle near room temperature, perhaps a tad warmer.
    Or maybe the sensor data is reporting things erroneously.
     
    If it is really at 75C you should be able to feel the heat by putting your hand near the cpu.
    And the fans should be at full throttle all the time.
     
    I can tell roughly what is happening on my system just from the sound of the fans.
     
    When I build systems, I don't even put on the fan until later. You don't need a fan if the system is just sitting there, truly idling.
     
    The most stressful thing I've tried (without resorting to benchmarks) is to set Acronis full backup to use maximum compression - that gets all cores pumping full bore for a long time. Then I might see 60-70C.
     
    Another simple test is to use the 7-zip 'benchmark' feature.
     

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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/31 06:16:56 (permalink)
    Realtemp shows my i7 3770 cores "idling" at 27 to 33 C.   Its rare that I get above lower 40's.
     
    I'm using a Thermatake Water 3.0 liquid cooling system for the CPU.  

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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/05/31 23:04:28 (permalink)
    I upgraded mb, and got a 4690 chip. It's running at 37 degrees at boot. I'll keep an eye out tomorrow when I launch Sonar. Still optimizing the new hardware atm.........finished sooner than I thought.......It runs around 37 with Sonar doing it's thing. Mark this one SOLVED...by a new mb........It may have been the cpu fan, but I can't afford to be down. Not that I'm making any money, but still.......
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/01 14:00:50 (permalink)
    I tried this morning with the case all buttoned up and my core temp never got above 138 degrees F...........this is with the stock intel fan. I have an Acrtic  but it looks complicated to install.

     
     
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/01 16:24:51 (permalink)
    I've never used an aftermarket fan on my CPU. The Intel fan has always done the job well enough. One thing I will say is that the problem could be thermal paste based. The paste that will come on the bottom of the stock cooler is typically crap. Better to take it off and put something like Arctic Silver on
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/01 20:03:12 (permalink)
    TerraSin
    I've never used an aftermarket fan on my CPU. The Intel fan has always done the job well enough. One thing I will say is that the problem could be thermal paste based. The paste that will come on the bottom of the stock cooler is typically crap. Better to take it off and put something like Arctic Silver on



    FWIW, Quality thermal paste might net you several degrees difference.
    75 degrees C when idle is 40+ degrees hotter than it should be with quality cooling.
    No thermal paste would have kept the OP's CPU from overheating.  
    There had to be a problem with the way the heatsink was seated... or with the fan.
     
     

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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/02 08:01:30 (permalink)
    I've seen this happen with heatsinks and fans clogged by dust. If it's a combination heatsink and fan, it's easier to replace the whole thing than to try and clean it out once the dust has become compacted in between the heatsink fins. It's a good reason to periodically vacuum out your computer, especially if it sits on a carpeted floor.


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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/02 15:00:47 (permalink)
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    I've seen this happen with heatsinks and fans clogged by dust. If it's a combination heatsink and fan, it's easier to replace the whole thing than to try and clean it out once the dust has become compacted in between the heatsink fins. It's a good reason to periodically vacuum out your computer, especially if it sits on a carpeted floor.


    I use the leaf blower part of a shop vac. It works amazingly well at getting dirt out of heatsinks since it pushes a lot more air than a can does. Just need to make sure to put something in your fans so they don't spin up because they can generate electricity (not to mention ruin your fans if they spin too too much like that) which can damage your computer. I'm constantly amazed how dusty the inside of a computer can get.
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/02 15:58:50 (permalink)
    I'm an old tech(Tektronix), so I have thermal compound in a little plastic container. I have all the cool chemicals!

     
     
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/18 14:20:05 (permalink)
    BTW, with a new computer fan instead of the stock Intel, my avg temp dropped from avg of 57-64 to 47-54. And I didn't get a real fancy one, only $20 at Frys.
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    Re: Sonar Platinum E causing CPU to overheat 2015/06/21 23:13:58 (permalink)
    Man, I wish we had a Frye's here.
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