kevmsmith81
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Bending midi notes
I'm not sure if bending is the right word, but is there a way on Sonar of doing the following?
Say you have a simple progression from a C to an F (it could be any notes really, but I'm just using that as an example). Rather than the C ending just ending and the F starting, is there a way of making it so the note slides up to the F? Hopefully that makes sense.
I saw a video where somebody did it in FL Studio, and it's a technique I would have use for in one of my current projects.
Thanks.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 04:06:35
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Are you using a MIDI keyboard?
They usually have Pitch Bend wheel and/or Portamento (or Glide or Glissando) . Also many (most?) soft synths have those features.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can add Pitch Bend control also in the Event list.
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kevmsmith81
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 04:20:07
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Sorry, I should have added I have no physical midi input at the moment. I'm putting everything in by hand in the piano roll.
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 05:38:04
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We need to know which soft synth you are using.
You should be able to draw pitch bend information in the relevant controller lane.
Pitch bend information is written in the range +/- 4096 with + values representing pitch up and - numbers as pitch down
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 05:39:36
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Hi. As Kalle said, this feature is inside most soft synths. Which do you use? It could be called (as mentioned) portamento, glide / glissando or something.
Best of luck.
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kevmsmith81
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 05:45:18
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I think primarily I would be using this in Z3TA+ or Rapture LE. I didn't have a specific synth in mind, as I didn't realise that it would be dependent on a specific synth's capabilities. I assumed there was a way of simply programming it in via the piano roll!
As you can probably tell, I am a relative novice in the world of soft synths.
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 06:31:07
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We all were at some point.
Another thing you'll have to check is the range of the bend as displayed in the synth's GUI.
If it's set to 2 (semitones) for example, don't expect it to bend by anything more/less than this.
If you want an octave bend you'll have to set it to 12
Dim Pro exposes a separate up/down bend range
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 06:35:51
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Not sure about this, haven't used it yet , But can you use the new virtual keyboard and assign a parameter to the mod wheel?
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 06:58:00
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☄ Helpfulby kevmsmith81 2015/06/10 09:12:47
Kev
As you can probably tell, I am a relative novice in the world of soft synths
Pitch bend is Midi controller data, but portamento is a function found in monophonic synths. Monophonic meaning you can only play one note at once, (it can still be a stereo sound), if you hit two keys at the same time the synth has to decide which to play. This usually results in them being played in order.. but there are variations where the second note won't play until the first is released, or the second note overrides the first note entirely, or the second note will play, but when released the first note will play again if it is still being held down (makes trills easy). Turn on portamento and when you press a second note (while holding the first note) the pitch will slide from the first note to the second. Portamento has a speed control which sets... the speed. The advantage of portamento over pitch bend is that it is not limited to any pre-determined range (your pitch wheel) so you could slide from C1 to C8 (and back) if you felt so inclined. The disadvantage is that by definition it only works monophonic and it's limited to "analogue" or similar style synths that generate the sound, as opposed to sample based synths which can't pitch shift their samples. You'll not find portamento in a piano patch, but it's GREAT on trombone.
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 09:09:11
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Karyn
Kev
As you can probably tell, I am a relative novice in the world of soft synths
Pitch bend is Midi controller data, but portamento is a function found in monophonic synths.
Monophonic meaning you can only play one note at once, (it can still be a stereo sound), if you hit two keys at the same time the synth has to decide which to play. This usually results in them being played in order.. but there are variations where the second note won't play until the first is released, or the second note overrides the first note entirely, or the second note will play, but when released the first note will play again if it is still being held down (makes trills easy).
Turn on portamento and when you press a second note (while holding the first note) the pitch will slide from the first note to the second. Portamento has a speed control which sets... the speed.
The advantage of portamento over pitch bend is that it is not limited to any pre-determined range (your pitch wheel) so you could slide from C1 to C8 (and back) if you felt so inclined.
The disadvantage is that by definition it only works monophonic and it's limited to "analogue" or similar style synths that generate the sound, as opposed to sample based synths which can't pitch shift their samples. You'll not find portamento in a piano patch, but it's GREAT on trombone.
That was exactly the sort of thing I had in mind, so thanks for the response.
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Re: Bending midi notes
2015/06/10 09:34:20
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This a feature which is built into FL Studio since its inception. This works only with certain synths which are 'native' to the FL Studio midi engine. Similar to VST Expression in Cubase, came about more recently.
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