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2015/06/17 05:11:04 (permalink)

I Need to drop the key of a backing track

Hi guys i need to drop the key of a backing track whats the best way to do it
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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 06:22:03 (permalink)
Best? - more expensive and perhaps better solutions ... but what's at your immediate disposal included from X3 Studio / 2015 Professional and definitely worth a go is Melodyne Essential.
 
Apply it as a Region FX on the Audio backing track, leave it in 'percussive' mode (one line of blobs). Select the whole Melodyne track and drag it up or down. You can get pretty good results to say +/- 8 semitones (before it gets too muddy).
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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 06:32:19 (permalink)
I have EZ PC DJ which is a Karaoke program.  I can change keys with it.  
I have a lot of Karaoke singer clients so it was needed. 
 
If you can't get it figured out, you can send me the file and I can change it to whatever key you want and send it back.
 

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 06:36:04 (permalink)
Audacity (free ware) has a very good module for doing what you want.

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 10:14:44 (permalink)
^ +1 to Audacity... free, easy, quick.. but obviously the artifacts increase the more you move away from the original key.

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 10:17:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2015/06/17 10:32:48
Use Process > Transpose. Just make sure "Transpose Audio" is checked, and choose Radius Mix for Type.

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 10:44:37 (permalink)
And to add, going down in pitch has more issues than going up. Drums become muddy and the snare sounds like a cardboard box. And Bass goes into Sub Bass which not all playback systems can handle. 
 
Any Wave editor will work. Sonar too but it's faster in a wave editor.
Wave editor= Open , render,save. 
Sonar= Create template- insert audio track, import audio, three menu clicks and so on.. 

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 11:35:11 (permalink)
Cheers people Iv got a few options now

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 14:21:53 (permalink)
Up "1" or down "1" isn't a problem with Karaoke tracks using my EZ PC DJ program, even if it has background voices.  It can get ugly if its moved too far, up or down.

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 15:36:57 (permalink)
I would go with Craig's suggestion.
 
If you change keys and tempos frequently, you might consider a tool like this.  I have not used the current version, but the old version was pretty good about changing key and tempo, as well as mashing up, cutting, and splicing.
 
http://www.mixmeister.com/
 

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 15:46:03 (permalink)
I recently moved a fully mixed song up a full step using Melodyne and it turned out great.  I was surprised.
 
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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/17 18:46:48 (permalink)
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Any Wave editor will work. Sonar too but it's faster in a wave editor.
Wave editor= Open , render,save. 
Sonar= Create template- insert audio track, import audio, three menu clicks and so on.. 



Actually, it's:
 
Sonar = drag clip into SONAR track view from browser*, click to select, choose Process > Transpose, choose transposition amount and algorithm, done. (At least that's how it is in Platinum, and I think Professional too.)
 
In a Wave editor, you still have to import the track after opening the program, select, and choose from among the various transposition options. The quality of the transposition algorithm will vary, depending on the editor.
 
I don't quite understand why someone wouldn't use iZotope's high-quality stretch algorithm that's already available in SONAR, unless you have a version without the Transpose menu option.
 
* You don't need to insert an audio track; SONAR will create it automatically. And if not running as administrator, you can drag directly from the desktop.

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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/18 02:41:33 (permalink)
Yes Craig, thanks of reminding me of the method you taught me just the other week :)
 
Tried it (Transpose) and, of course, it worked a treat ... and simply.
 
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Re: I Need to drop the key of a backing track 2015/06/18 09:59:45 (permalink)
ShellstaX
Yes Craig, thanks of reminding me of the method you taught me just the other week :)
 
Tried it (Transpose) and, of course, it worked a treat ... and simply.



Cool. I like simple as well 

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