Brand new install crashes at launch.

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2015/06/19 21:00:58 (permalink)

Brand new install crashes at launch.

I used to use SONAR many years ago and decided to try it again. I ordered the Platinum (from Sweetwater) upgrade, installed everything, then pushed the Launch button. It immediately crashes with a SONARPLT.exe has stopped working error. I've tried running as admin and nothing. Kinda worried that a brand new install of a brand new program won't even run the first time and of course tech support is closed on the weekends. I'm hoping someone here might have some ideas. I also use Ableton and Cubase and those are running fine so I doubt it's a driver issue.
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
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    charlyg
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/19 21:04:07 (permalink)
    Did you use the Command Center? If so, just try a reinstall from there. The files are on your hard drive, so no need to wait for d/l again.
    post edited by charlyg - 2015/06/19 21:10:49

     
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/19 21:21:29 (permalink)
    Uninstalled and reinstalled from CC, still crashes. Uninstalled and tried installing with the individual installer, still no good. Tried Administrator for both, nothing.
     
    I used to love Sonar and switched cause school used Cubase, but I never really liked the Cubase workflow. I had used Cakewalk for MANY MANY years. I'm hoping this is some minor thing that can be quickly resolved, and they'll obviously not start my year countdown until it's working.
    Thanks
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/19 21:30:30 (permalink)
    We're gonna need the specs on your computer to be able to help.

     
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/19 22:04:47 (permalink)
    Sure. 1 month old Alienware 17 i7-4710, 16GB RAM, Windows 8.1 64bit, program drive is 250GB SDD, 500GB SDD and 1TB HD storage, NI Audio 6 audio interface. Cubase, Ableton Live, NI Komplete Ultimate, VSL, EWQL all working fine. Ummm... missing anything?
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/20 02:46:53 (permalink)
    What do you mean by "crash?" Do you get any indication that the program is launching, or any error message? How does the programs's exit occur? Does it "crash" Windows (BSOD freeze restart), or is it just that Sonar does not do what you expect it to?
     
    One thing that comes to mind when a newly installed program crashes on first use is that the installation includes fatal errors due to corrupted files. In the days before command center, Cakewalk used to post MD5 hashes of the installation files so that you could check their integrity on you computer after download. I have no idea if there is a way to do that with the new installation system. One would hope that such a check was built in to the installer and that you would get an error message and halt when the installer tried to read corrupted files from your drive.
     
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/20 03:02:41 (permalink)
    Skippysonics
     pushed the Launch button. It immediately crashes with a SONARPLT.exe has stopped working error. 

    slartabartfast
    What do you mean by "crash?" Do you get any indication that the program is launching, or any error message? How does the programs's exit occur? Does it "crash" Windows (BSOD freeze restart), or is it just that Sonar does not do what you expect it to?
     
     


    I can only ask, have you tried launching from outside of the Command Center?
    post edited by charlyg - 2015/06/20 03:09:12

     
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/20 05:28:53 (permalink)
    Any antivirus that should be deactivated during install, or something?
     
    And as charlyg mentioned, launch from CCC is launching in admin mode - since installer is elevated.
    Normal launch might give more clues - not that I can see how admin should crash anything, but is different anyhow.
     
    First launch usually try plugin scan and stuff, as I remember, guessing plugin paths. I've gotten plenty unwanted things and I had to edit VST paths and reset and scan to get it normal with only 64-bit stuff.
     
    What is the safe mode startup - hold down Shift while doubleclicking a shortcut?
    Or is that open projects only?
     
    And seeing the "not responding" is common nowadays, so could mean "just wait a few minutes".
    Getting hasty and try doing too much too early after first launch might lead to crash.
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/20 11:05:17 (permalink)
    I have tried starting from the CC and externally. I click on either, a black box saying Sonar Platinum comes up and within a second a "SONARPLT.exe has stopped working" message pops up and it closes. Gonna give Sweetwater a call now.
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/20 11:44:16 (permalink)
    Figured it out. A game had installed some sort of Razer surround sound thing, when I uninstalled that and rebooted the program opened fine. Thanks for all the help though! It was a bit rough that the program didn't give me any sort of crash log or explanation.
     
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/21 08:08:38 (permalink)
    When a driver takes down an application it probably hasn't loaded enough to enable any error message logs because it's not inside Sonar.

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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/21 09:47:40 (permalink)
    Skippysonics
    Figured it out. A game had installed some sort of Razer surround sound thing, when I uninstalled that and rebooted the program opened fine. Thanks for all the help though! It was a bit rough that the program didn't give me any sort of crash log or explanation.
     
     

    You may want to mark this as "solved"...people tend to get upset if a forum host does it for them : ) 

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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/21 13:05:38 (permalink)
    A few questions for you.
     
    1.  Do you use on-board sound or an actual audio interface for Sonar?  I ask, because you will achieve much better results by offloading all the analog/digital conversion to a dedicated audio interface, than by making your computer's CPU try to handle it.
     
    2.  Are you using ASIO4ALL?  If so, be aware that a great many folks have had all sorts of errors - even just having it installed.  It is at best a 'wrapper' that really uses WDM but presents itself to applications as ASIO.
     
    3.  If using ASIO drivers, if you have your default Windows Audio Device set to use the ASIO drivers of an audio interface, AND you launch Sonar, Windows and Sonar will fight over the drivers, and will likely be problematic.  Even simple things like the audible sound of a mouse, can cause disruption/crashes.  I have chosen to have only my high-end music applications, such as Sonar or the stand-alone versions of synths, to point to my audio interface, while I have the Windows Default Audio Device set to use my on-board sound chip.  This way, I never have anything fighting over the ASIO drivers of the audio interface.
     
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    Re: Brand new install crashes at launch. 2015/06/21 13:06:51 (permalink)
    Forgot a question - is your Windows maintenance up to date?  I not, I recommend you bring it up to current maintenance levels.
     
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