Help With Behringer bcf 2000, please

Hi all,
 
I while back I asked for some assistance to controlling PC units with my novation impulse 49 as a controller.
 
Because of some limitations It was mentioned the best way to go would be a mackie MCU or a Roland VS unit.
Because of my budget restrictions the Behringer BCF 2000 was mentioned as an option.
 
So I saved up some money and finally bought a unit last week.
 
I read thru the manual Fast biker boy, Jessy G and Blade made and cant get any further than controlling the first PC unit.
I know this is some kind of global limitation that could be "fixed" using AZ conroller from Azslow3.
 
So I already downloaded and installed it (incl the update from yesterday  (azctrl_0_4r0b245.exe). But (offcourse) it does nothing in the beginning and has to be configured.
 
So my question;
 
Does any body have a preset file I can use with AZ controller with my behringer BCF2000 to control PC modules?
Does anybody have a solution how to control the PC modules with a BCF2000?
 
 
 
Thanks in advance guys:D
 
Reza
 
P.S. Does somebody have BCvieuw running in windows 8.1 if so, how did you manage it to display?

Hi Jesse :D,
 
Wazzup?
 
thank you for your reply.
 
The Unit itself is on the latest firmware. I have it running in MCso mode (MackieControlSonar). 
The unit itself is working just fine.
 
I came across a few oddities witch is somewhat explained in the documentation but I want to be sure.
 
I can not control all plugins (fxbin) with it running in MCU mode. For instance the Sonitus FX plugins doesn't seem to map more than the first control per bank here. Others work fine. Haven't tested all.
 

1. But could it be correct that not all VST/DX/VST3 plugins are supported?

 
I can control the first ProChannel Unit (if they have the white ACT mappable border around it). No luck in changing the controlled PC module when using [Edit mode] [M1] [upper shift] [ch>] or [ch<].
 
This command however works with plugins inserted in the fxbin. As I can switch around here. Not all plugins 'map' all there parameters though.
 
When I use the DYN "section" it will only work when a PC compressor is inserted first
 
When I use the EQ section it will only work properly when the quad qurve EQ is the fist ProChannel inserted.
 
When I used the sonitus FX EQ and compressor in the FX bin the EQ and Dynamics will control the first plugin inserted in the ProChannel.
 
As I mentioned before in plugin mode when a track with plugins in the fxbin is selected the plugin works great as I can cycle through all plugins inserted in the selected track and can almost always (Sonitus Fx doesn't work maybe because it is DX only?) alter all parameters (which will require bank changing of course, as not all plugins have a max of 8 controls).
 
So Jesse I remember That it was agreed that the ProChannel module that is first in the chain will be controllable. Yet you seem to assume that I did not install properly.
 
    2. Did I misinterpret you? and are the ProChannel modules controllable with the BCF2000?
    3. I see you also use Win 8.1, Did you manage BCvieuw to work?
 
Also I haven't managed to work out how to "navigate" thru Sonar with the BCF. UP/down [project view|logic] left/right [consoleview|logic] to change the selected track and then cycle thru plugins preferable the PC modules.
 
    4. Do you know how to navigate thru Sonar using the BCF2000?
 
Thank in advance,
 
 
Reza

Hi azslow3 :D,
 
Thanks for helping me again.
 
Some more questions (sorry)
 
So do I understand you correct that making changes in the MackieControl.ini file is my best bet except for it not officially support ProChannel (it does control the first in the PC chain are my findings however)?
 
So for the functionality I want I actually need to ask Cakewalk to make the PC modules "controller/MCU aware and my problems would be solved?
 
I guess that would make sense as it would give the functionality on "all" surfaces that support [DYN] [EQ] [send] [plugins] [buss] or [FX] sections, right?
 
I guess you probably understand exactly what I am trying to accomplish.
 
If I understand you correctly the sollution you provide for now partially helps me with my problem,right?
 
As you have guessed I would love a out of the box solution, I do not mind configuring if it would help me with all my needs.
 
Thank you very much.
 
 
Reza

Thanks for the additional info,
 
Very helpfull. So I can use [DYN] mode and assign the prochannel modules that have the white brackets on the controls (Craig's tip). Right?
 
Thanks I understand that I have to configure but I am past that now.
 
If I were to ask for the prochannel to be "promoted" to the [EQ] [Dyn] [plugins] section so all controller could be aware of them that would be less specific and valuable to "all", right? I guess what I am trying to ask, is this a different wuestion that adding specific functions to (only) one controller.
 
Thanks,
 
Riz

Thanks Azslow3,
 
So what I am trying to accomplish (all possible PC module control with BCF200) is not (completely) possible? Only just one PC module at a time...
 
So for instance I am done tweaking the EQ of track one and want to do the tweak the comp in track 2 I have to setup again?
 
I don't mind (for now) to be restricted to one type of PC module per fx type (eq/comp), is that possible?
 
Thanks again for the super help.
 
Again excuse me for being a noob. I am reletively new to Sonar and I am missing the expiereience to come up with my own workarounds in Sonar. Thanks for your patience.
 
Please dont misunderstand me, but all the maybe possiblities confuse me.
 
Thank you in advance,
 
Reza

Hi Azslow3,
 
I did install your plugin but got unsure because of all the options ( as you could say I am a noob, I am uncomfortable tweaking stuff I dont understand.
 
Your explenation made me more confident and I am the kind of person that needs to understand, I am probibly off now an could configure on my own now.
 
I am very happy to read that I can control "all" PC modules. I am not unhappy at all that I can "only" change parameters on one PC module at a time.
 
What is a little set back though ( I hope you know a solution) that you mention I have to click the plugin. For now offcourse this is no objection. But I hope you understand that selectting a plugin from the controller (maybe arrow keys?) would be preferable as it is actualy quite counter intuitive to switch between (mental) control modes. 
 
So the question; is it possible to change/select plugins/pc modules using a controller (preferably the bcf2000).
 
Thank you very much, I will be coming back if I have any issues :) (if you don't mind).
 
Have fun with the update (mine is still downloading 3hours, have a 30Mbit connection :( ).
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Reza