Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers?

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2015/06/28 14:04:51 (permalink)

Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers?

Normally I use an Octa-Capture but I noticed that IKM now says that I can use the iRig Pro to connect using ASIO4ALL, to my PC laptop. I'm thinking of giving it a try for use out on the rear screened porch to mess around and try some new things without either using Amplitude or Multidaw and my phone or having to bring the OC out and plug it in. It seems like I remember something from a couple of years ago about having ASIO4ALL installed could cause a problem. I could just bring my Toneport UX-2 out, it is USB powered and easy to hook up. I was just sitting here on the porch and was going to play around with Rapture Pro but it wont recognize my onboard soundcard (I'm not looking for a great quality preamp, just wanting to mess around in the nice weather and learn a bit).
So, ASIO4ALL... potential trouble or no problem?
 
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    charlyg
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 16:21:37 (permalink)
    Potential trouble, and I haven't heard anything different lately.

     
     
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 16:33:00 (permalink)
    TY Charly! I will just use the UX-2 for this sort of messin' around outside. I'll just keep using the iRig Pro with my iPhone. I'm eligible for an upgrade in July and am going to get a 64G 6+ phone... happy happy! Who needs an iPad?
     
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 17:22:58 (permalink)
    Best to totally remove ASIO4ALL

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 17:28:14 (permalink)
    I got a 128 gb 6+ and sold my iPad Mini(R)..... I have 50+gb of music
     
    PS - It should be called ASIO4NOW, as that is all it is good for. A temporary kludge to get by  for a bit.
    post edited by charlyg - 2015/06/28 17:36:03

     
     
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 18:55:51 (permalink)
    I don't have any issues with asio4all. I had unending loads with regular installed soundcards (w7-64). the virtual ins and outs come in extra-handy too.
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 19:15:18 (permalink)
    LaszloZoltan
    I don't have any issues with asio4all. I had unending loads with regular installed soundcards (w7-64). the virtual ins and outs come in extra-handy too.




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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/28 19:45:39 (permalink)
    The point is this. 
    If your computer is normally using a proper audio interface and real ASIO drivers you should not install ASIO4all. It will cause some issues and commonly it takes over your proper drivers every time you boot Sonar. It's well known to be invasive to your audio system. 
    But if you have a laptop you want to just mess around with, and are never going to hook a proper interface to it, then asio4all is an option over using on board drivers... sometimes. 
    It's just best to always have an interface on hand. Pick up a little Focusrite Solo for example. 
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2015/06/28 19:52:56

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/29 06:55:04 (permalink)
    ASIO4ALL is a crap shoot.  It may work for some but not work or cause other PC problems for others.  This seems to be the general consensus on forums I visit.
     
    In my case I tried it for a device (for testing) and it totally screwed up my (at the time) Saffire Pro 40 drivers and the drivers for an Alesis IO26.  I had to uninstall the ASIO4ALL and reinstall the Saffire Pro 40 and Alesis IO26 drivers.

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/29 07:07:32 (permalink)
    ASIO4ALL seems to install itself as a higher priority driver (to Windows) which does weird things to legitimate ASIO drivers. As it is truly WDM, be very conscious of this and monitor things if trying it. It does uninstall cleanly (reinstall genuine ASIO afterwards just in case), so testing it out will destroy nothing.

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/29 09:00:29 (permalink)
    LaszloZoltan
    I don't have any issues with asio4all. I had unending loads with regular installed soundcards (w7-64). the virtual ins and outs come in extra-handy too.


    if you are using ASIO4ALL, you are BYPASSING your native ASIO drivers on any soundcards you have installed and are actually using their WDM drivers through an ASIO wrapper (ASIO4ALL). 

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/30 00:51:10 (permalink)
    To be clear: I have auzentech soundcards (disabled for audio creation purposes)- those were made with C media chipsets (as in soundblaster cards). i also have an akai EIE Pro interface, but experienced blue-screen issues as similarly reported by others.  There are no other ASIO drivers for these things that i know of, be they "real" or imagined. My experience with ASIO4All  has been nothing other than positive. I am only using a midi keyboard controller and MPC, no miked vocals, guitars etc. so perhaps those devices have different needs- but in terms of my personal experience, asio4all has done a fine job, without issue or expense.  
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/06/30 10:17:54 (permalink)
    There is a huge difference when recording audio. Pure MIDI work will be in time no matter what the driver. But I bet if you did a audio loopback test on that system using asio4all the tracks would be out of sync.
    Asio4all is usefull for people with consumer level gear which does not come with drivers. A lot of USB mikes and stuff that work fine on MAc's don't work on PC and on board sound. So asio4all to the rescue.  

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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/07/05 12:57:25 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the answers. I'll leave well enough alone. I had ASIO4ALL once upon a time but removed it when I got the Octa-Capture. I thought I remembered that it wasn't really compatible. IT isn't worth the risk of trouble when I have other solutions. I was just thinking of the very small size of the iRIG Pro and it's being USB powered but, so is the UX-2 and I could get some other mobile interface if I need it but when I upgrade to the 6+ this will all be a non-issue. Sonar on the laptop and DAW, mplitude, MultiDAW, and other APPs on the phone for easy playing around outside.
    Thanks all!
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    Re: Will ASSIO4ALL mess with other ASIO drivers? 2015/07/17 02:59:34 (permalink)
    LaszloZoltan
    To be clear: I have auzentech soundcards (disabled for audio creation purposes)- those were made with C media chipsets (as in soundblaster cards). i also have an akai EIE Pro interface, but experienced blue-screen issues as similarly reported by others.  There are no other ASIO drivers for these things that i know of, be they "real" or imagined. My experience with ASIO4All  has been nothing other than positive. I am only using a midi keyboard controller and MPC, no miked vocals, guitars etc. so perhaps those devices have different needs- but in terms of my personal experience, asio4all has done a fine job, without issue or expense.  


    Asio4all is a very mature piece of software and harkens back to a time when a lot of hardware didn't have ASIO drivers. So in some situations it provides an answer. Today though I don't know of any audio devices that don't provide ASIO drivers. This lack is more likely in consumer equipment built for windows where MME and WDM drivers are the norm. Unfortunately when you do have ASIO drivers installed for a particular audio device and install asio4all as well, there have been some big problems only solved by uninstalling asio4all.

    If you're using asio4all without problem then that's fine.

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