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2015/07/01 06:49:55 (permalink)

Where do the Sonitus presets usually live?

I've suddenly lost my Sonitus presets after installing Foxboro. Anyone any idea where they should be, and what to install to get them back?
 
Cheers, Peter.

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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 07:28:56 (permalink)
I am thinking Foxboro has created a new set of folders
 
first: use the file manager to search the C drive for the name of a preset
 
copy the folder to a safer location. It will be a buried folder with a long number as name
 
then open sonar, one of the sonitus plugs, and save a preset, then search for it
 
then copy the contents of the old folder into the new one.
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 07:30:29 (permalink)
They are (were*) in the respective .ini files in "%CakeHome%\Shared Plugins" ... alongside the .dll and .chm files.
(Actually they are minus the "Sonitus" prefix e.g., SonitusFXReverb.dll has it's presets in FXReverb.ini).
 
See the respective  .chm help files regarding the Preset Manager and Note:
The Sonitus:fx preset files use a proprietary format and are stored using the .INI extension. Although the presets are stored as clear text rather than binary data, you should not attempt to edit them manually. You should also note that they are not compatible with various types of preset files created by host applications, and such files can not be imported into the Preset Manager.
 
*Also note: I'm using / referencing  Sonar X3 (Steam).
post edited by ShellstaX - 2015/07/01 07:57:10
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 07:57:27 (permalink)
This is one of the folders updated today:
C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Shared Presets\{141AC902-5344-726D-5345-5353494F7E31}
 
For me, the presets in these subfolders do not have file extensions.
 
If the Sonitus (direct x plugs) were not exported with the plug-in manager, they cannot be imported.
The only way is to copy the files.
 
Until S2015, all my presets have been stored on the D disk. Since I still want to use this structure I have to copy any new presets from the buried folder to where I want them to be. But until the CCC works properly I am doomed.
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:06:50 (permalink)
Thank you both for excellent suggestions.
 
I saved a distinctly-named preset, and it turned up in the registry but not in a file.
 
There were no *.ini files in the Shared Plugins folder. I installed X2, and they turned up. Now everything is OK.
 
I wonder if Platinum doesn't install the preset files, but nobody has noticed because we all have previous versions installed? I happened to do a clean install of everything recently, which wiped the X2 presets.
 
Cheers, Peter.

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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:19:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby PeterMc 2015/07/01 08:38:16
They are stored in the registry path HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\ActiveMovie\Presets by CLSID. I believe the ini files are used during install to populate the registry.
 
Roll back to Everett and roll forward to Foxboro should re-install the plug-ins. You may be able to get them back by logging into your account, clicking on SONAR Platinum in connected products, download and install the Platinum Core Plugins 1.0.0.2.
 
 
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:31:05 (permalink)
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
This is one of the folders updated today:
C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Shared Presets\{141AC902-5344-726D-5345-5353494F7E31}
 
For me, the presets in these subfolders do not have file extensions.
 
If the Sonitus (direct x plugs) were not exported with the plug-in manager, they cannot be imported.
The only way is to copy the files.
 
Until S2015, all my presets have been stored on the D disk. Since I still want to use this structure I have to copy any new presets from the buried folder to where I want them to be. But until the CCC works properly I am doomed.


 
Again, for Sonar X3 (Steam), for comparison ...
 
I only have 3 directories under "%PROGRAMDATA%\Shared Presets" namely and associated with:
 
0A7F7099-E2BC-4869-B943-914D70FB0FE6    ACT MIDI Controller
404C9315-693D-4715-A326-143A992FA784    Cakewalk Generic Surface
FEF20E38-35DE-4074-A9E1-F8644630292F    Psyn II
 
You could sorta tell what they were by there contents ... but I also searched the Win Registry for the ClassIDs - which gave me the description.
 
What's the contents of your changed directory? Do the look like SonitusFX? (or are you savvy to do a Registry search?)
(There's also ClassID mappings in the  Plugin Manager).
 
Ahhh - we are all cross-posting :P
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post edited by ShellstaX - 2015/07/01 08:40:32
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:31:24 (permalink)
My 8.5 stored presets did no show when I installed X1.
Yet X1 did create folders with preset files. When I copied from my "old" folder to the new all were seen.
 
This must be for backward compatibility. And that now as they are stored in the registry they show never be lost to an update. Yes?
 
 
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:46:49 (permalink)
Peter - I assume you have the files in "Shared Plugin" now huh?
 
Scook - The files should exist huh? What's your access/visibility/clout to get this to the attention of Cakewalk?
 
(I want my Steam X3 to work when I press the button to install Platinum (purchased months ago via Cakewalk)).
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 08:59:18 (permalink)
AFAIK, the presets are read by the plug-in from the registry. That is one reason there is an export/import process in the Plug-in Manager. I don't have a clue about Steam and how it works. In a regular Cakewalk installation the files in ProgramData are the master which are copied during installation and re-personalization into the User directory.
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 09:10:52 (permalink)
So the question remains ... or at least I'm not clear yet ...
 
Is there a problem with the Platinum (/Foxboro) installer that removes or does not deploy necessary SonitusFX .ini files?
 
(necessary in the respect that the presets were once included and should continue to be included).
post edited by ShellstaX - 2015/07/01 09:21:18
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 17:18:27 (permalink)
Yes, the Sonitus *.ini files are now in the Shared Plugins folder. I reinstalled Sonitus from X2 (not Platinum) and the files turned up. They were useable in Sonitus plugins in X2 but not Platinum since they live in a version-specific registry key. Then I rolled back to Everett and re-installed Foxboro, and now Platinum is seeing the presets too.
 
I don't have a good theory as to what went wrong, but suspect a problem with the Foxboro installation (although it would have to delete existing registry keys pointing to the presets to cause this). Anyway, good to go (although I lost half a recording session).
 
Cheers, Peter.
 

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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 18:40:28 (permalink)
Peter ... Good on you for resolving your issue.
 
... But ... I'm also thinking about 'the next guy' (maybe me) ... who a. doesn't recognize or b. Installs anew, doesn't get the presets and thinks situation normal.
 
Without 1000 people in the forum checking/responding, although a few may be helpful, it should be easy for Cakewalk to confirm whether the .ini files are still required (I suggest so, in the case that the Reg entries are removed or were never there) and that they are still distributed with the installers.
 
I'm going to follow progress ... and raise it in the Feedback forum if a definitive response does not come out of this thread.
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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 19:27:02 (permalink)
Make sure you raise it in the feedback forum. The Bakers monitor that closely. This forum is considered more peer-to-peer.

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Re: Where do the Sonitus presets usually live? 2015/07/01 19:29:37 (permalink)
Thanks Craig - will do.
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