Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96

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2015/06/21 07:58:56 (permalink)

Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96

Focusrite has new Driver. 3.6 for Windows. that fixed the problem with 24/96recording
in Sonar. they work great.
 
 
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/21 16:24:15 (permalink)
    Thanks for the hind!
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/21 16:34:47 (permalink)
    FWIW this seems to be for the complete Saffire range, even though there is no update to 3.6 on the LS 56 ŵeb page.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/21 16:38:58 (permalink)
    Seems to be 
    joakes
    FWIW this seems to be for the complete Saffire range, even though there is no update to 3.6 on the LS 56 ŵeb page.

    Cheers,
    Jerry

    Seems to be right ( except the interfaces, which are not builded anymore,like the saffire LE)
    cause till now I installed the same driver for all my focusrite saffire devices-
    have 3 different  of them.
     
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    post edited by Pragi - 2015/06/24 05:40:49
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/21 18:36:49 (permalink)
    joakes
    FWIW this seems to be for the complete Saffire range, even though there is no update to 3.6 on the LS 56 ŵeb page.




    I was curious about the above post and tried it with my Saffire LE.  Unfortunately the new MixControl 3.6 does not appear to recognise the Saffire LE.  It is not surprising since it has long been a "legacy" product and they had stopped supporting it some  time ago.  Still it is a great little interface and has never given me any problems.
     
    I must say I was disappointed with Focusrite when they stopped supporting the plugins that came with it.  This seemed a bit mean (stingy)  since they did include similar, supported addins with their newer products.  How much would it cost for them to give them to those who had bought the older interfaces?  This experience will certainly make me think twice about purchasing their products in the future.
     
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/22 06:42:09 (permalink)
    Sorry for you, that the Saffire Le is not supported by new drivers anymore.
    Have you registerd your inteface ?
    Then have have the chance to get the red plug ins of focusrite for free in your account,
    you know?
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/22 13:32:26 (permalink)
    Received this from Focusrite, thought it might be of interest here :

    "Currently we are still testing Mix Control 3.6 with other Saffires with the intention of fully releasing 3.6 for other Saffires very soon.
    You should be able to use 3.6 with your LS56, however please note that there may be some issues that we're not aware of. If this is the case, you can revert to Mix Control 3.4/3.5, although we'd ask that you do report the issue to us."

    Great news !

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/22 16:56:44 (permalink)
    joakes
    Received this from Focusrite, thought it might be of interest here :

    "Currently we are still testing Mix Control 3.6 with other Saffires with the intention of fully releasing 3.6 for other Saffires very soon.
    You should be able to use 3.6 with your LS56, however please note that there may be some issues that we're not aware of. If this is the case, you can revert to Mix Control 3.4/3.5, although we'd ask that you do report the issue to us."

    Great news !

    Cheers,
    Jerry

    I'm having a problem with this update on my pro24. Two things have happened. I sometimes use the safely remove hardware option when I want to turn off my pro24. I get a message that there is still an application running and to close the app and try again. There is no app running so the drive is not letting go of something but nothing shows in the task manager. The other thing that happened and is why I re-installed 3.4 is that I couldn't get any sound output in any project. All routing was fine but just no sound.
     
    I'm going to report this to Focusrite.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 11:35:39 (permalink)
    Bob
     
    This clears most issues with mix control..
    Uninstall
    Reboot
    Install latest mix control.
    In the mix control menu perform all resets/defaults.
    Set it up again.
    Save to hardware and backup your settings.
     
    Also check antivirus isn't getting in the way, and disable it in windows control panel sounds. In Sonar prefs don't share out your driver.
     
    Cheers...
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/06/23 11:47:59

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 11:53:49 (permalink)
    Another thing.. Don't use the legacy windows FireWire driver. Focusrite do not recommend it any more.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 15:35:13 (permalink)
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    Another thing.. Don't use the legacy windows FireWire driver. Focusrite do not recommend it any more.


    That counts me out then, still using the VIA chipset (until either the computer or Saffire die at least).

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 17:04:23 (permalink)
    Not sure what you mean. I'm using VIA firewire just fine on my motherboard. If you are internal like me then updating your chipset drivers and bios can be a good thing as well. Otherwise check for firmware updates on your card.

    What I was referring to earlier was what is set in device manager. If you have VIA congrats you are using a chipset recommended by Focusrite.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 19:19:46 (permalink)
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    Bob
     
    This clears most issues with mix control..
    Uninstall
    Reboot
    Install latest mix control.
    In the mix control menu perform all resets/defaults.
    Set it up again.
    Save to hardware and backup your settings.
     
    Also check antivirus isn't getting in the way, and disable it in windows control panel sounds. In Sonar prefs don't share out your driver.
     
    Cheers...


    I'll give it another try. I'm using TI chipset on my firewire. I'm sure they will have this update working for all Saffire's soon though. I have no issues with 3.4

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/23 20:21:38 (permalink)
    Pragi
    Sorry for you, that the Saffire Le is not supported by new drivers anymore. Have you registerd your inteface ? Then have have the chance to get the red plug ins of focusrite for free in your account, you know?
    best regards
    Pragi



    Good advice Pragi, thanks.  I did just what you suggested and, after a quick online chat, Focusrite has given me a "little something" to make up for withdrawing support from my original plugins for the Saffire LE.  It looks like the mixer for this unit is frozen at V1.6 so the earlier post that indicates that the new mixer is compatible across the "complete Saffire range" is probably referring to the later units that share the Saffire name.  At least for the present.
     
    The Saffire LE works quite well with Sonar 2015 and the latency seems low enough for my needs.
     
    R
    post edited by RD9 - 2015/06/23 20:27:54
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/06/24 05:31:29 (permalink)
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    Sorry for you, that the Saffire Le is not supported by new drivers anymore. Have you registerd your inteface ? Then have have the chance to get the red plug ins of focusrite for free in your account, you know?
    best regards
    Pragi



    Good advice Pragi, thanks.  I did just what you suggested and, after a quick online chat, Focusrite has given me a "little something" to make up for withdrawing support from my original plugins for the Saffire LE.  It looks like the mixer for this unit is frozen at V1.6 so the earlier post that indicates that the new mixer is compatible across the "complete Saffire range" is probably referring to the later units that share the Saffire name.  At least for the present.
     
    The Saffire LE works quite well with Sonar 2015 and the latency seems low enough for my needs.
     
    R


    Hi , good, that your interface is working well .
    I´m going to correct my post above.
    regards
    post edited by Pragi - 2015/06/24 05:41:37
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/04 17:11:43 (permalink)
    I've just managed to install this .. Was running the beta before...

    Holy cow this is an EXCELLENT update.
    Note for those running beta you must uninstall first (recommended anyway)...

    Ta...

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/04 19:50:12 (permalink)
    I bought a new Saffire PRO 40 last week, and installed using the latest 3.6 MixControl and drivers from the Focusrite website. I have to say I am absolutely stunned by the performance. I can get latencies as low as 2ms going in, although this is a little too low for my processor to cope. Can change the asio buffers on the fly without having to power cycle the interface as I had to with my previous. Rock solid. Great sound too. Mix Control is truly liberating, dont know how I managed with out it. I also have some questions this week and spoke to Jack in customer service at Focusrite who could not have been more informed and helpful. You guessed, I'm a Focusrite convert !


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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/05 01:38:21 (permalink)
    I just went to search for this to check it out. It is only listed in the Saffire PRO 40 (possibly because it replaces a specific software piece on the PRO 40 that comes up in the text prior to installation). I installed it (resets firewire latency (to medium) and buffers (to 512???)) so I quickly set those back to short and 64 samples, then tested it on the X3 demo file. Very minor pops during playback, but is significantly smoother than 3.4 was for this same project. Very nice first impression of things!
     
    Edit: The playback was perfectly smooth by simply bumping up to a 96 sample buffer. Rather impressive.
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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/05 18:01:30 (permalink)
    Guess I need to run another loopback test to see if it makes any difference.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/05 18:49:44 (permalink)
    ... No difference.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/07 09:15:16 (permalink)
    Latest on win 10 compatibility...
    http://forum.renoise.com/...yinfo-thread/?p=331519

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/07 11:04:15 (permalink)
    Sorry to keep banging on but heck... why not...
     
    In mixcontrol I was on a buffer size of 128, and medium firewire driver latency before, and now I'm running as good if not better on 64 and short!
    Wow!
    The negative side of the coin shows that the drivers have been far from optimal until now. Glad it got spun around...
    Focusrite did get a little bad "press" lately, the rumours going around were that their firewire interfaces are not the fastest, guess this is their answer to this question.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/07/07 11:40:47

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/13 06:59:11 (permalink)
    There may be a reason that MixControl 3.6 is only listed for the Saffire PRO 40. I had two instances where "no sound" occurred on my 24 DSP. The first I found the Windows sound card settings had been altered to another bit depth/sample rate (and set to exclusive mode) - these are also the default for when MixControl is installed, somehow it reverted. The second I couldn't find the cause (even setting the Saffire to Windows default had no sound from any program). Very freaky that second one... I ended up uninstalling 3.6 and put 3.4 back on this machine.

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    Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 24/96 2015/07/13 09:03:11 (permalink)
    Contact Focusrite I suggest...

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