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2015/07/06 08:36:08 (permalink)

(Busy getting fixed): Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing..

All right, which Baker was supposed to check this? Freezing a synth unmutes all the muted tracks. C'mon guys.. it worked just fine in the previous build :O(
post edited by LJB - 2015/07/08 07:03:01

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 10:12:52 (permalink)
I made a change in this area relatively recently, so if the problem exists it's probably my fault. However I'm unable to reproduce this; I made a couple tracks with some data (including several synth tracks) and froze/unfoze without changing anyone's mute state. If you've got a consistent recipe to reproduce, let us know. 
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 10:29:45 (permalink)
Tested this using Foxboro (the alpha build that Noel posted up to fix the fast bounce bug), Win7 x86 and all works correctly here on various different projects.
 
Perhaps it's something in the x64 version? Anyone else want to give it a test?

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 10:34:16 (permalink)
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All right, which Baker was supposed to check this? Freezing a synth unmutes all the muted tracks. C'mon guys.. it worked just fine in the previous build :O(



All muted tracks in the project, or just the selected tracks? Can you reproduce this in a brand new project?

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 11:33:58 (permalink)
I am having trouble reproducing it in a totally new project, though this IS a new project. This one contains plenty of synths, video and tempo changes.
 
It's just very very strange. After freezing all the muted tracks are unmuted.
post edited by LJB - 2015/07/06 11:40:28

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 11:39:08 (permalink)
I am seeing the 2 word phrase "tempo changes" crop up in a number of recent scenarios.
 
Try temporarily removing them and freeze again. DON'T save the project, just close it & re-open to get your tempo  changes back

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 12:44:41 (permalink)
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All muted tracks in the project, or just the selected tracks? Can you reproduce this in a brand new project?


I believe this is an important question. If not, I think something is corrupt either in the audio file itself or project of some sort.
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 13:38:24 (permalink)
I just tested this on a project and not only did it unmute tracks, but it threw a fatal error.
Using Foxboro 64 with Noel's tempo patch.
Sent in a fault report.
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/06 14:29:56 (permalink)
Which tracks got unmuted? Could you repro this in a brand new project?

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 01:44:08 (permalink)
It seems better this morning but still seems to happen mostly when freezing a Computer Music Magazine free synth called Avatar ST... Maybe it needs an update... I shall keep testin'.
post edited by LJB - 2015/07/07 02:13:08

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 06:28:33 (permalink)
Scratch the previous statement - freezing is just a disaster right now. The frozen audio is out of sync as well as tracks unmuting randomly. Yes, I use multiple tempos. Yes, this is a new project.
 
Not good when you're working on TV music to a deadline.
 
 
Why do I need to freeze tracks? For one, because having to trigger and play a 2 minute drone on a synth from the beginning to edit the end is insanely wasteful. That, AND it's supposed to work.
post edited by LJB - 2015/07/07 06:36:25

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 08:07:46 (permalink)
Out of curiosity, does bouncing to a track work in this project?
 
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 08:22:23 (permalink)
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Scratch the previous statement - freezing is just a disaster right now. The frozen audio is out of sync as well as tracks unmuting randomly. Yes, I use multiple tempos. Yes, this is a new project.
 
Not good when you're working on TV music to a deadline.
 
 
Why do I need to freeze tracks? For one, because having to trigger and play a 2 minute drone on a synth from the beginning to edit the end is insanely wasteful. That, AND it's supposed to work.




Have you tried the loose build I posted last Thursday? That should definitely address any tempo map issues with bounce or freeze. Regarding tracks getting unmuted we need a recipe or repro project since its not happening in any of the tests we tried.

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 08:31:03 (permalink)
Yup quite a few Q's have been asked in this thread and we aren't seeing anything specific that could be helpful for people to repro.
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 08:40:02 (permalink)
This isnt the same issue but I wonder if this is related codewise...

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 08:53:54 (permalink)
Noel, I downloaded your x64 file and the message is "The program can't start because TTSlame.dll is missing.." ANy ideas?

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 11:41:54 (permalink)
Update:
The problem is *NOT* project specific and is easily reproduced.
Happens on *EVERY* project. I have tested several projects.
I am using Noel's updated Sonar patch.
 
Mute all tracks in the project.
Unmute and Solo the track you wish to freeze.
Click the freeze icon.
Result:
1. if the track was an audio track all tracks (audio and midi) in the project are unmuted during freeze.
2. if the track was a synth track all synth tracks are unmuted, and random audio tracks are unmuted during freeze. Midi tracks appear unaffected.
 
I have not experienced another crash.
 
Since I do not freeze tracks this problem does not affect me. However it is a problem that needs addressed.
 

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 13:03:49 (permalink)
FWIW, I could not reproduce the unmuting problem per the recipe above in any of three projects I tried. If it's not project-specific for those who experience it, it might involve some specific preference setting or combination of preference settings or possibly O/S localization or Visual C++ redistributable version differences.

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 13:16:29 (permalink)
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Noel, I downloaded your x64 file and the message is "The program can't start because TTSlame.dll is missing.." ANy ideas?


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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 13:21:15 (permalink)
Try copying/pasting the DLL into another folder like the main Sonar folder.

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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 14:01:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Doktor Avalanche 2015/07/07 21:19:01
Thanks guys, working with some Bakers to fix the icing. Keep ya'll toasted.
 
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Re: I'm peeved: Foxboro unmutes tracks when freezing.. 2015/07/07 21:52:47 (permalink)
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Update:
The problem is *NOT* project specific and is easily reproduced.
Happens on *EVERY* project. I have tested several projects.
I am using Noel's updated Sonar patch.
 



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