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2015/07/07 02:45:35 (permalink)

Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee?

I can give all my logins and passwords to someone else but can I change the actual personal identity (name and address) associated with my current Cakewalk account to ensure that that account then becomes theirs?

I'm a guitarist, not a scientist, recording audio/midi via SONAR Platinum.
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/07 02:58:25 (permalink)
It would cost more in legal fees than the account is worth.

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/07 03:38:45 (permalink)
The only thing of value in most Cakewalk accounts is access to licensed products. The licenses are granted to the owner of the product and are not transferable. Presumably that means that the license can not be conveyed to anyone else by sale, gift or bequest. Any services or benefits associated with the "ownership" of the products would likely be limited to the original licensee. So what would be the point of transferring the account, even if it could be done under the terms of service?
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/07 06:16:43 (permalink)
Still that info could all be changed except for your name but as you don't have to "prove" who you are your legatee could use your name until they have all the programs.

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/07 08:44:40 (permalink)
so, I can't Will the use of this software to my kids ?
 
and if not, then, will carry my muse ? 
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/07 09:29:21 (permalink)
LaszloZoltan
so, I can't Will the use of this software to my kids ?
 
and if not, then, will carry my muse ? 


according to the EULA which you had to agree to in order to install the software, sonar is not transferrable to anyone else - it is licensed only to you; therefore you cannot Will the software to your kids legally.
 
 
as far as "carrying your muse" - I assume what you mean is that you want them to have access to your songs in sonar as recorded and mixed so that they can use them as they desire from the projects.  if that's the case, then you can simply have them purchase their own license and you can give them your projects which will open in their copy of sonar.
post edited by Beagle - 2015/07/07 09:36:51

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 01:05:11 (permalink)
ok thank you for taking the time - not that I am planning on going anywhere, but I didnt want to face that question unanswered as my last conscious thought
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 07:09:52 (permalink)
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... then you can simply have them purchase their own license and you can give them your projects which will open in their copy of sonar.
 


I suppose that the projects as loaded by a legatee under separate licence will not automatically include any separately licensed effects and instrument plugins, ProChannel strips, libraries etc. that the original incorporated... ?

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 10:54:07 (permalink)
As said the licences are none transferable, but all your files are yours and certainly can be distributed to anyone. 
And of course if you leave them your DAW computer and the password to fire it up they can certainly carry on from where you left off and finish your works in progress. 
There is nothing illegal that I see about sharing the software on the computer. It's not like I have to tell clients.. "Stay away from the DAW! If you touch that keyboard I'll go to jail!" 
They would just not be able to access your account and updates. They would need a new licence for that. 

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 11:10:16 (permalink)
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Beagle
 
... then you can simply have them purchase their own license and you can give them your projects which will open in their copy of sonar.
 


I suppose that the projects as loaded by a legatee under separate licence will not automatically include any separately licensed effects and instrument plugins, ProChannel strips, libraries etc. that the original incorporated... ?


correct, but I think all of the cakewalk instruments and plugins, etc are licensed the same or at least similarly.  third party VSTs and VSTi's however would be determined by THEIR EULA, not Sonars and you'd have to verify with each vendor what their policy is on transfer.  Several of the instrument and FX companies do allow transfer (like NI, IK, etc).

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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 11:48:35 (permalink)
It should be noted that certain countries have outlawed the practice of non-transferable software licenses (or so I have read). I am unsure if Belgium (where the OP has listed as their location) is one of those countries. It is my understanding that Cakewalk, for obvious reasons, lifts the no transfer policy where applicable by law.
 
So essentially if your local laws prohibit such "one owner per license" EULA restrictions then yes, you can do as you please without risk of legal consequences.
 
In the case of leaving your studio and software licenses to your kids after you shuffle off from this mortal coil I don't think the Bakers are litigious/vindictive enough to launch such callous attacks. Perhaps their new parent company might go down that route but I doubt that as well.
 
Now if you were SELLING it (in an area without legal protections from EULA restrictions)... then that gets into skeevy territory and could (and deservedly so) incur legal ramifications.
 
However you could perhaps set the license up under a "business" as an asset. So the person does not own the license... the studio does. Then with a purchase or transfer of the business and all it's assets to a new owner it might be legally acceptable.
 
However I am not a law talking guy.
 
Contact customer support directly or your attorney if you need specific details on the legality of such things.
 
PS: I would also imagine that Cakewalk would prefer to have continued customer as opposed to no customer at all. These types of terms are usually implemented to deter flagrant abuse such as software "tourists" who purchase, install then sell programs at a whim abusively or to avoid legal action themselves due to distribution agreements with retailers (and of course to avoid cutting into their own bottom line).
 
Not encouraging this behavior though. Of course it's best to just buy them their own licenses... preferably while you are still alive so you can pass on the most valuable commodity of all. Knowledge or how it all works and just spending some quality time with the recipient.
post edited by Beepster - 2015/07/08 11:57:27
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 12:48:03 (permalink)
My son uses SOANR. Aside from that, would he even want my projects? Maybe as a "shrine" but I seriously doubt he'd ever open them.
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Re: Can I bequeath my Cakewalk account to a legatee? 2015/07/08 13:09:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/07/08 13:20:49
I'd store your stuff if I had the space, Baps. It's also quite possible you'll outlive me though.
 
However I think your collab efforts could be an educational resource so maybe Cake could provide some server space.
 
You do seem to get a lot of love from your successors. I'm guessing they would love to have an archive of all that Bapalicious wackiness.
 
Live long and prosper.
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