SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25

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SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25

Hey guys,
 
I am trying to get sound when playing Massive within SONAR using a new but mini keyboard- Samson M25.
 
The Samson M25 and Massive play well together as a stand alone. 
 
So I would just like to get these three jamming together in harmony.
 
This screenshot may help.
 

 
 
Should I tweak some settings from 32 bit to 16?
 
 Thank you.
 
Sincerely,
 
Jay
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 14:38:18 (permalink)
    Hi. Is your keyboard connected via MIDI or usb?
    Best of luck.

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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 14:51:41 (permalink)
    Hi Ken,
     
    Its connected by USB.
     
    Thank you.
     
    Sincerely,
     
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 14:56:19 (permalink)
    Have you downloaded the latest usb drivers from Samson? Maybe try a different usb port?

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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 15:01:17 (permalink)
    Ken,
     
    No I haven't DLed the drivers.
     
    I'll do this and see what happens,
     
    Thx. ;-)
     
     
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 15:13:54 (permalink)
    Hopefully that will get you there. If not, try a different usb port (or cable).
    Best of luck.
    post edited by Zargg71 - 2015/07/07 15:21:37

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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 15:22:48 (permalink)
    Hi Ken,
     
    No drivers for this hardware.
     
    Its just plug-in and go.
     
    As I posted before, Massive and the Samson M25 work fine outside of SONAR.
     
    Do you have any other suggestions?
     
    I'm sure there's mapping to be had.
     
    Perhaps in the MIDI section of preferences?
     
     
    Thanks.
     
     
    Jay
     
     
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 15:36:52 (permalink)
    Try using 24 bit instead of 32, and see if that helps. What are your specs? Processor, RAM, etc.?

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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/07 17:39:45 (permalink)
    Hi Jay,
     
    I think that when Sonar starts it is taking quite a bit of system resources. Since the usb driver is native, I do not believe that it requires a lot. Your system specs or a screenshot of your system information page would be helpful. Thx.

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    And enrapture me with pleasures galore...
    Suddenly it could all quickly fade away...
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/08 13:04:20 (permalink)
    LunaTech
    Hi Jay,
     
    I think that when Sonar starts it is taking quite a bit of system resources. Since the usb driver is native, I do not believe that it requires a lot. Your system specs or a screenshot of your system information page would be helpful. Thx.




     
    Thanks guys,
     
    Do you know wha theading in the manual "attaching keyboards" to SONAR might be.
     
    Or something common like that.
     
    I've seen in the Cakewalk forums where there was a dialogue involving a bigger samson music keyboard but I've tried those things and it doesn't work.
     
    Here is a CPU-ID .pdf file I uploaded on Scribd.
     
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/270930522/CPU-Z-HTML-Report-File
     
    Its not private.
     
    Its full.

    Its comprehensive.
     
    Thank you.
     
     
    Jay
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/11 15:36:03 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    I am unable to determine if this is the forum I should be posting this problem in.
     
    is this screen shot helpful?
     

     
     
     
     
    Zargg71
    Try using 24 bit instead of 32, and see if that helps. What are your specs? Processor, RAM, etc.?




     
    Is this the area within SONAR I apply your suggestion?
     
    Btw, these are my current settings,
     
     

     
    Please let me know what I can do to supply your team with the best information as possible.
     
    If this is no longer the forum I should post in then would someone tell me where I should be posting?
     
     
    Thank you.
     
    Sincerely,
     
     
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/11 15:53:46 (permalink)
    In the initial picture, Massive is running stand alone with SONAR in the foreground. Have you tried loading SONAR only, configure your MIDI device inside SONAR then load Massive as a VST in SONAR?
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/11 16:08:29 (permalink)
    Some of the information is helpful.. But to get a better picture of what is happening.. A bit more is required. For example how big are your hard drives and how much free space is on them? Take a screen shot of "task manager" performance tab.. Before starting Sonar and after Sonar has started. See if there is a free memory checker that can be downloaded to determine if there is a bad memory stick (MemTest86) and Microsoft has one also. Does the keyboard work with other synths in Sonar.. Use an  empty project, load a synth and see if you get error with Samson.  In your screenshot is that Massive loaded standalone in the background?. If so, close Massive stand alone , run sonar and load Massive from the synth rack.  I an not sure if Massive standalone is using the Samson and then Sonar calls the Samson Midi driver, if this is not the cause of the error in Sonar. IHTH....

    "Life could capture me with songs of innocence...
    And enrapture me with pleasures galore...
    Suddenly it could all quickly fade away...
    But I'm not surprised any more...."

    Sonar Platinum Pro- Win 10 64- I7 6800k - Asus - 32gb DDR4-SB ZX sound card (cd output to mixer)- Toshiba 960gb SSD (OS - Audio APPs)- 4TB Seagate (Storage/ App Content)- M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro - Akai MPD 232 - Zed R16 - PT 12 - A&H QU 24- Axiom 61 - XD 80usb
     
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/11 16:09:26 (permalink)
    Hi Scook,
     
    I just noticed that too before your post. So yes what Scook said.....

    "Life could capture me with songs of innocence...
    And enrapture me with pleasures galore...
    Suddenly it could all quickly fade away...
    But I'm not surprised any more...."

    Sonar Platinum Pro- Win 10 64- I7 6800k - Asus - 32gb DDR4-SB ZX sound card (cd output to mixer)- Toshiba 960gb SSD (OS - Audio APPs)- 4TB Seagate (Storage/ App Content)- M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro - Akai MPD 232 - Zed R16 - PT 12 - A&H QU 24- Axiom 61 - XD 80usb
     
    "When He is all you have, He is everything you need"
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/12 13:18:40 (permalink)
    Cool guys!
     
    I am going to apply your info and combine it with this cool video on Sonar and MIDI setup.
     
    I'll be getting back to you with your keen PC performance suggestions.
     
    Then i'll be rollin man! :-)
     
     
    thanks!
     
    Jay
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    Re: SONAR PRO, Massive, and Samson M25 2015/07/15 12:05:22 (permalink)
    Update...
     
     
    I've gotten a good response from SONAR by lowering the buffers to absolute minimum.
    Keyboard playing, playback and recording sound good.
     
    I am just using SONAR for three to eight critical instruments covering the rhythm, melody, and harmony of the few songs on the mainly vocal-centric EP.
     
    When I publish I'll use the proceeds to upgrade the laptop and to partner with an internet or local production haus.
     
    Thank you very much.
     
    Sincerely,
     
    jpeek345
     
    P.S. I don't know how to unpack .iso images for the MemTest86. I don't see an .exe file offered there.
    Is there one I overlooked?
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