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Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/10 22:55:35
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I'm not that familiar with Tom Waits, although I am familiar with his vocal style having heard some of his stuff over the years.
This is a fitting cover of a great song by him (I've just listened to the original). And simply recorded... I like this.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/11 18:44:49
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Lovely. Emotive. Wistful. Kudos.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 00:34:24
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Suicide music lol!! Not a TW fan...prefer Leonard Cohen but I appreciate the vocal and your ability to sing. I like the grit too (the fan noise) I've discovered that noise is the key to getting really cool mixes IMHO...my mixes and masters tend to have "tape hiss" or even crunch introduced into the mix via the Waves H-Comp. Robert Fripp (King Crimson) calls this Audio Verite or warts and all...listen to King Crimson's Island and you will know what I mean.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 12:59:13
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Not me singing or playing, it's my client. I think what you're attributing to fan noise is actually the keys on the digital piano, we did this live in one take and there are a couple of keys that "clack" a little that the vocal mic picked up. Regardless, not afraid of the occasional wart. 😁
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 14:18:28
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Great job, love that vocalist.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 19:19:10
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Thanks ohgrant. I think she's great too. She's on Reverbnation and Facebook if you care to follow her.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 19:49:19
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river
Not me singing or playing, it's my client. I think what you're attributing to fan noise is actually the keys on the digital piano, we did this live in one take and there are a couple of keys that "clack" a little that the vocal mic picked up. Regardless, not afraid of the occasional wart. 😁
Love the sound of a swordfishtrombone! Very nice production and mixing work!
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 21:34:54
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Thanks kindly, TheMaartian.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/12 23:40:45
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I get this, what you are doing. You have everything very soft, to draw the listener in. Very successful.
However, you might be making the listener work too hard, just a bit. The piano is low in the mix (I've just started dabbling with Pianoteq 5, which I like some apsects of - and perhaps you are keeping it low, so it does not reveal itself synthetic in any way? Louder pianoteqs show themselves rather faux in the upper registers particularly.
So you keep the piano low - and your vocal is low in level as well. I'd bring up both - the piano just a bit more, and your vocal just a bit more than that.
The trouble is, if you bring your vocal up, you are going to magnify the plosives you already have. Check out any lyric with a "p" ("pay the piper") - did you use a windscreen on the mic?
Enough criticisms - your touch on the piano is extremely deft, and your voice is beautiful in the extreme. I'm not a huge TW fan but I'd wager I'd prefer your voice on any of his songs. I hope you write some of your own?
cheers,
-Tom
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/13 08:48:34
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Thanks for your observations, emeraldsoul. I'm not the artist, I'm the engineer/producer. Yes, she writes her own material and is extremely gifted at it, holds a masters in English Lit/poetry. This album was 10 years in the planning.
The levels are right where I want them to be and there's a method to my madness. This album will have about a dozen tracks on it, several with dense track counts. The sparse tracks like this one tend to be perceived as louder because there are fewer slices in the pie. When mastering and sequencing songs, I'd rather have to bring the sparse tracks up to the level of the dense tracks, than to lose level on the dense ones by bringing them down to the sparse tracks...made that mistake before, live and learn.
I don't like windscreens on vocal mics, they can rob high end detail. This is a first draft of the finished track and I will draw the explosives out with the volume envelope before final mastering, have had great success with that method. A bit of sidechain compression can help also.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/13 12:34:07
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Ah! Thanks for clarifying, and your responses made total sense then. It's great as a first draft and your plans for it sound solid.
I've not monkeyed around with editing out plosives like that, I've used windscreens, which are frankly a pain. On my voice, losing some high end is not an issue, but with a female vocalist of her quality, I take your point.
cheers, and good luck going forward! -Tom
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/20 14:57:20
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The only critiques I could come up with is a bit of high-end "lip smack" on the vocals here and there, and the piano is a bit dark. But I understand where you're going with it in context. So suffice to say, this is something I could listen to repeatedly.
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Re: Sonic Sculpture Inc. _ Jacqueline Pie Francis _ Tom Waits "Time"
2015/07/20 17:06:24
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Not being a huge fan of Tom Waits or long, sad songs, I can, nonetheless recognize that this was exceedingly well done. Loved her voice.
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