Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar?

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2015/07/20 09:52:03 (permalink)

Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar?

I have to install and start using Pro Tools (as well as Sonar. I'm not leaving my baby behind!)
 
I'm wondering if I can leverage some or all of the instruments and effects I have for Sonar. I'm particularly concerned with TH2 as it's my go-to virtual drum instrument.
 
Just as an FYI - the reason I'm adding Pro Tools is because I'm working with a team who require me to have it. It's NO slight agains Sonar. I love Sonar!
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    Paul G
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 10:20:03 (permalink)
    One of the more experienced users will not doubt step in here but in the meantime.  Any regular VST's you have installed would be obviously available if PT still recognizes that format.  Anything Pro Channel, or that was bundled with Sonar, (like Melodyne Essential), I'm guessing would not be accessible in PT, (other than the VST version of the CA2A).  I think TH2 was bundled with Sonar.
     
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 10:41:59 (permalink)
    Which version of Sonar and PT are you using?

    Certain plugs like the Blue Tube suite are locked into Sonar.

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 10:48:25 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    And based on your version of PT  you may some type of vst wrapper or porter to use anything other than RTAS (</=PT10) or AAX (>/= PT 10) . And again PC plugins will not work as they are native to Sonar. In regard to TH2 if you have the full version, you have access to both RTAS and AAX formats. IHTH....

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 12:00:08 (permalink)
    TH2 = go to virtual drum instrument?
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 12:10:44 (permalink)
    bapu
    TH2 = go to virtual drum instrument?

    any drum sound performed by me throw AD2 sounds bad... And I know the reason now, I had to use TH2!

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 17:12:02 (permalink)
    I havent used Pro tools in awhile, but i know my sonar picks up vsts from Fl studio and vise versa so id assume it would be the same, but like Paul G said.. if it came bundled with sonar, Incorporated into the sonar system it prolly wont recognize it.
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 21:34:01 (permalink)
    I don't know any of the plugins that came with Sonar are available as RTAS for PT9 and earlier, AAX 32 for PT10 and AAX64 for 11 and 12.

    If you bought a stand alone version of any synths from Sonar they may have RTAS or AAX versions but I doubt it.

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/20 21:53:37 (permalink)
    You won't be able to use any Sonar plugins directly in Pro-Tools, Pro-Tools uses a different format (AAX vs VST). But... Pro-Tools supports rewire, Reaper can load VST plugins while acting as a rewire slave (it's the only DAW that does that). Note that some bundled plugins will only work with Sonar but you should be able to use D-Pro, Rapture, etc. if you go that route.
     
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/21 14:21:28 (permalink)
    Just out of curiosity, what is their rationale that you have to have PT?

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/21 18:06:51 (permalink)
    Dave,
     
    I am collaborating with a group of colegues who are using Pro Tools 11. They've asked me to use it as well. That doesn't mean I can't use Sonar as well of course. But with their work I need to have Pro Tools. Thats just what they want. And they're the ones paying for the work.
     
    I've had 24 hours to start learning Pro Tools and I have to say I LOVE SONAR.
     
    Pro Tools seems way over complicated and feels like it's missing some great workflow tools, etc. Did you know that if you want to adjust pre-fader gain on a channel IN PT... you have to load a PLUG IN?
     
    Now don't get me wrong. I'm also seeing things I love in PT. A lot of things.
     
    So I'll have experience with both platforms. Nothing wrong with that. An artist uses more than one brush, more than one paint type, etc.
     
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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/21 18:23:12 (permalink)
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    Dave,
     
    I am collaborating with a group of colegues who are using Pro Tools 11. They've asked me to use it as well. That doesn't mean I can't use Sonar as well of course. But with their work I need to have Pro Tools. Thats just what they want. And they're the ones paying for the work.
     
    I've had 24 hours to start learning Pro Tools and I have to say I LOVE SONAR.
     
    Pro Tools seems way over complicated and feels like it's missing some great workflow tools, etc. Did you know that if you want to adjust pre-fader gain on a channel IN PT... you have to load a PLUG IN?
     
    Now don't get me wrong. I'm also seeing things I love in PT. A lot of things.
     
    So I'll have experience with both platforms. Nothing wrong with that. An artist uses more than one brush, more than one paint type, etc.
     
    Gavin


    I am acutely aware of PT - I got lured down the PT path with the interface I bought (lured away from GT Pro 4) and came back right before X2 was released because of the cost to keep PT current.  If all you are doing are trading stems, your DAW shouldn't matter.
     
    But the customer's always right.
     
    Good luck with the learning curve.

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    Re: Have to install Pro Tools - Can I use plugins from Sonar? 2015/07/21 18:55:19 (permalink)
    Something I prepared earlier for X3 (/Steam) ... and generic vs ProTools (which I have no experience with).

    I've only tried with Tracktion 4 (DAW) which only seems to only handle 64bit VSTs but it's something like this.

    Cakewalk SI Instruments work.
    Cakewalk Sound Center should work (but is only 32bit - I can't test with Tracktion).

    Most base level Cakewalk FX and Sonitus (Cakewalk) FX are actually DX not VST so you'll need a DAW or wrapper which can process Direct X FX/instruments.

    Nomad Factory (Blue Tubes) and Overloud (TH2, Breverb) are restricted to Sonar (at the request/agrreement of the third party companies).

    Celemony Melodyne Essential (from Studio edition) works.
    XLN Addictive Drums at Producer edition is full product and completely usuable.

    Other bits I've tried have worked.
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