How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks?

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2015/07/20 11:31:19 (permalink)

How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks?

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I just started recording with my Sonar X1 LE software, and I am a beginner so if this is a really basic question, sorry but I need to know! How do I minimize the harsh white noise/static in the background of my tracks. I have a Samson G track, a pop-filter, and have been told to go to the EQ and adjust the frequency levels to minimize the noise. But I admit, I have no idea what I'm doing-- any help?
 
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    Zargg
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 14:38:52 (permalink)
    Hi. Maybe try to lower your input (during recording), as the mic probably enhances noise (surroundings) during high level recordings.
    You do not need to record very hot, if you use 24 bit (if not, you should be).
    Best of luck.
     

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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 15:15:00 (permalink)
    The best way would be to avoid recording the objectionable signal in the first place. A decent microphone in a silent (none of the objectionable noise audible) environment should not produce audible noise compared to a reasonable level of real world sound being recorded. Are you sure you are hearing "static" and not clipping or dropouts? Does this noise show up when you are recording silence? "White noise" suggests that this is not noise pollution of the recording environment/studio but electrical noise from the microphone or interface or some external source. Setting the gain too high will accentuate this kind of noise, but if the signal to noise ratio of the microphone/interface is nominal, it will produce oversaturation/clipping before the noise becomes problematic.
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 15:49:25 (permalink)
    Thanks for the responses! Yes, it definitely is white noise. It sounds like a constant fuzz/hissing in the background, and also I am in a silent room when recording. So to see where the noise is coming from, I lowered the levels on my mic almost nearly down, and the noise is still there, so this would mean it's coming from inside mic? also, how do I check the gain levels? Again, sorry but I'm really new to this.
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 15:52:13 (permalink)
    I also tried recording when the mic is on silent, and the noise still occurs.
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 16:12:00 (permalink)
    What are you plugging the Samson into? What are you using for your recordings - desktop? Laptop?

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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 16:17:25 (permalink)
    Could it be a grounding issue in your power supply / outlet (from the wall)? White noise (as already mentioned) should not be an issue during regular recording. Maybe a different usb cable for your mic?
    Best of luck.

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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 16:28:29 (permalink)
    I am recording my Samson with my laptop.
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 17:22:59 (permalink)
    Is the laptop plugged in or are you just running it on the battery?

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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 17:48:53 (permalink)
    The USB digital signal should be pretty much immune to electrical interference, but a faulty USB connection could transmit electrical (analog) noise to the microphone from the computer. Connections can also act as antennas and pick up radiatingadiating electrical noise in the environment. Switching USB cords and cleaning the connections is worth a try. A laptop on battery has no ground connection which is a potential problem. See if plugging it in helps. Try the microphone attached to a known good computer. Try the microphone in a completely different building. See if you can borrow another microphone and try that. Download Audacity and see if you have the same problem in that application (long shot) and if not then you can worry about some kind of software issue. Some people use the Audacity noise reduction, but there are better applications if you have the money. If the noise follows the microphone everywhere no matter how it is connected, there is a good chance that the microphone will have to be replaced.  That is probably going to be a better solution than trying to apply noise reduction to every recording.
     
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2015/07/20 18:04:36 (permalink)
    Thanks so much for the advice. I will try these ideas out. My laptop was charging at one point as I was trying to record, and at other times it wasn't. I plan to also call the Samson company and get tech support. Hopefully, that will help as well. If it does, I'll post back about it. Thanks everyone!
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2016/02/17 10:59:17 (permalink)
    I recently had a similar problem and wanted to comment on what the problem was and the solution in my case. Maybe it might help someone. 
     
    First off, I got a new PC and rearranged my recording setup. I have a Toneport KB37. When rearranging everything where I decided to put my Toneport KB37 the USB Cable that come with the KB37 was not long enough. So I had a usb midi cable that's about 3 times the length of the cable that was made for use with the KB37. 
     
    So I got everything setup, I kept getting pops, clicks, hum, static and my first thought was maybe it was the PC setup or Latency or drivers. It was none of that in my case. 
     
    Long story short, I switched back to the shorter cable that came with the KB37 and that completely fixed the problem. 
     
    What I had failed to realize or think of when I switched to that really long USB cable was the fact that my Toneport KB37 is powered from the USB Port, it doesn't have an independent power supply, so for whatever reason, possible voltage drop not powering or carrying the signal, using the really long USB Cable was my entire problem.  
     
    I even tried using the regular cable and a small usb extension cable only adding about 3 feet extra length and still had the problem, only it was not as bad.
     
    So at least in my case switching to the factory length cable that came with the KB37 directly plugged into the USB port solved all of my problems. 
     
    Just wanted to mention my situation in case someone else might run into this issue in the future and not think of it. 
     
     
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2016/02/17 11:53:05 (permalink)
    If it is a hissing noise and not a hum, sounds like you have issues in your recording signal chain.  Older equipment with capacitors are notorious for this issue... even though we want to keep vintage gear virgin, re capping is quite often necessary.
     
    The other issue can be from lower quality newer audio interfaces (pre amp), same idea where the internal electronics are introducing the noise.  I don't know if anyone mentioned this but is the hiss on the tracks too?  Or just through the monitors?  If just through the monitors, you might want to check out using BALANCED cables for your speakers/mixer (if they accept balanced inputs - which they should).
     
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2016/02/17 12:50:20 (permalink)
    I would've suggested that perhaps your mic was picking up fan noise, very easy to do with a condenser mic, but I guess having the issue with the mic turned off (is that what you mean by silent?) rules that out.

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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2016/02/17 13:56:47 (permalink)
    everybody gave you good advice track down the source. the sonitus fx:gate can work well to gate low level noise on a recorded track.
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    Re: How do I minimize white noise/static in my tracks? 2016/02/17 22:03:41 (permalink)
    One more thing to try... that is, if you mute one track at a time and the noise goes away, you know it is related to something in the signal chain of that track.  Sometimes plugins add noise just being on and not set correctly.
     
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