Glyn Barnes
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Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
Here is a new product from Sampletekk. Its a deep sampled DX7 electric piano. - Kontakt, HALion, EXS24 and SFZ formats included. (Full Kontakt needed).
The inclusion of SFZ will appeal to those who do not have the full version of Kontakt. The demos sound pretty good and its cheap enough, as its included in the current Sampletekk summer sale, and there is an extra discount for existing customers. But do I need a sampled DX7 ePiano when I have FM8?
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/24 11:24:26
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No. You don't need a sampled dx7 when you owned fm8. There are lots of free dx7 patches on the net that can be converted into fm8. I had managed to find many varieties of FM electric piano patches. Fm8 is probably the best dx7 emulation out there. I had played a dx7 before in the eighties. Fm8 should have similar dynamic range to dx7. I am not sure a multi velocity sampled dx7 could even come close to that.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/24 14:51:21
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Thanks, It was a rehtorical question really. This is probably a very nice product (Sampletekk's stuff is invarably good) but its goining to be limited compared to a good emulation of a DX7. Something it will have in common with most (all?) sampled synths.
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/24 18:33:32
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Goining, Glyn? Where R U going with that?
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/24 23:55:25
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Glyn Barnes But do I need a DX7 ePiano?
I think this version of the question might be more appropriate. Of course, my dislike of this sound has to do with it being used on every single terrible ballad made between 83 and 90 (or so). I'd be open to hearing any examples of that sound being used for good and not evil, though.
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/25 00:22:00
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I prefer to use such things in "stacks" of keyboard sounds...particularly with dark, phat, chorused Rhodes sounds. Adds the perfect amount of "sparkle".
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/25 10:55:57
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IMO, nobody needs a DX7 piano emulation. I hated that instrument back when every Top 40 tune had to have one in it, and the pianos were particularly annoying. That Wurly, OTOH...now there's a classic sound I'll never tire of. Twenty bucks for returning customers.
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/25 16:10:02
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/25 16:34:16
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Gee Dave...you are a curmudgeon, aren't you? Welcome to the club:-)
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 00:02:33
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This page starts with a list of "20 sounds that must die" as presented in Keyboard Magazine in 1995. http://www.synthmania.com/Famous%20Sounds.htm. The DX Piano is at #7. Behind 808 drum sounds, but ahead of Orchestral Hit and Shakuhachi.
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 03:39:07
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Hi guys! First of all, it's not a DX7 we've used, it's a SY77. Yes, the FM EP's was a bit, shall we say, overused in the 80's, but I do think that these are great sounding, very expressive instruments, and you don't have to play cheesy 80's music with it! Ok, the reason why I wanted to try this is that these kind of sounds are starting to get populare again in modern pruductions, (like it or not...). IMHO, emulators doesn't work in a mix. It sounds very similar to the real thing if you solo it, but together with the rest, it doesn't cut it. This is why I decided to take the hardware, and treat it like any other piano, that is use massive number of velocity layers (22) and sample all the notes. So, now I have a deep samples FM EP that I can do work in a mix without having to get the hardware. Ok, some people will still hate the sound and some will think that an emulator does the job great, and then this library is not for you..
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 05:07:14
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Quite an interesting list, mumpcake, thanx.
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 12:24:42
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Don't take it personally, Per. You're among fans here. Note that in the list mumpcake listed, the DX7 piano is #7, and "DX Anything" is #8. Why is the DX so universally despised? There are many older and more ubiquitous instruments that remain extremely popular (Wurlitzer, Rhodes, Hammond B-3, everything Moog) despite being more sonically limited than the DX7. Could it be more about the sappy 80's pop ballads the DX is associated with, than the instrument itself?
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 13:10:15
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Guess that's it, those Whitney Houston ballads made us cringe. That said, I do like yorolpal's suggestion about stacking this new Sampletekk library with a chorused Rhodes.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 13:39:38
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Well, I thought I had dodged a bullet but Bit's comments on the wurley made me look at it again and I bought it. While its not as versatile as the Scarbee one it really sounds good.
I had a couple DX synths but they were the 4 operator variety. They served me well at the time but FM8 is one of my least used VSTis
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 17:00:07
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He, he... No problems! I usually make sample libraries that I want myself, (and then hope that others will like them too...). I also think that, even there where some great things going on in the 80's, there where a lot of cheesiness happening. Think a lot has to do with the digital era pushing out the analog. I remember a band that was saying to the producer: "Make it sound expensive". So that glossy, might I say cold, sound was a bit overused. But, that said, I think that these FM EP's really are expressive, great sounding instruments. Thing is that you have to remove the 80's from your mindset before using them in present productions, and that can be hard as they sure was prominent 3 decades ago!
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Re: Sampletekk NEW - STFM EP-1 Deep Sampled FM Electric Piano (inc SFZ)
2015/07/26 19:11:03
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Hey Per,
Got mine downloaded and tried it out and it is very nice indeed. And I'm not surprised you used an SY over a DX. I had both and much prefer the SY although I have a special place in my burned out cinder of a heart for the DX9...which was my first "proper" synth. Plus stacked with a fat warm Rhodes it's just loverly!
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