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July 29, 15 10:33 AM (permalink)

Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track.

   I would like some help with recording problems that I am having in SONAR Pro.  I inserted my softsynth and recorded what I played and then I inserted an audio track to record the midi track.  Now I can’t get the audio track to record the midi track, it worked fine until I just recently had to reinstall all of my software.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong, any suggestions?
 
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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 10:45 AM (permalink)
You as yet cannot record one track to another. You can bounce or freeze the synth which is the same thing more or less.

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 10:53 AM (permalink)
That update is coming to do so shortly though (record one track into another). Either this week or next month, Craig said "August."

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 11:27 AM (permalink)
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Now I can’t get the audio track to record the midi track



What's the reason why you want to do this?
 
Are you sure talking about a midi track or maybe an softsynth instrument track that combines midi and audio in one track?
 
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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 11:30 AM (permalink)
Well I was doing this in SONAR X3. I was always recording my softsynth instrument track into an audio track so I could add effects and other things. But now I can't get it to work in SONAR Pro. I know I can export it but I never had to do that before.
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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 11:36 AM (permalink)
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Well I was doing this in SONAR X3. I was always recording my softsynth instrument track into an audio track so I could add effects and other things. But now I can't get it to work in SONAR Pro.


Well you would be the only able to do this in Sonar. See this. http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Rolling-Updates#start
 

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 11:42 AM (permalink)
What ever you were doing in X3 should work in the new SONAR.
 
Is is possible in X3 you were using simple instrument tracks and not MIDI tracks? A simple instrument track is a hybrid of a MIDI track and an audio track.
 
If you are now using a regular MIDI track, you will need to add at least one audio track with the input set to the synth. Once the audio track is setup, add the effects in the FX bin or ProChannel of the audio track. Once the routing is complete, you can freeze the synth or bounce it to another track if you want directly edit the audio created by the synth.
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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 12:07 AM (permalink)
Where have I been. I love this Rolling Update page.

Well you would be the only able to do this in Sonar. See this. http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Rolling-Updates#start




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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 12:21 AM (permalink)
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Well I was doing this in SONAR X3. I was always recording my softsynth instrument track into an audio track so I could add effects and other things. But now I can't get it to work in SONAR Pro. I know I can export it but I never had to do that before.




The way to render a MIDI/soft synth track into an audio  track with FX (or without) has always been Bounce To Track or Freeze. Nothing has changed. I wonder what your workflow actually has been. Maybe you have used internal (or SB) soundcards "Stereo Mix" or "What you Hear" settings? Anyway, bouncing or freezing is the way to do quickly and reliably.

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 2:53 PM (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mdages July 30, 15 8:21 AM
I'm confused why bouncing or freezing is needed. I add audio effects to instrument tracks directly. I have midi tracks whose output is set to the instrument track and the correct channel. I only freeze or bounce if the project size requires it to free up resources. I guess if I wanted to export the stems into another project for mixing would be a reason.

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 2:59 PM (permalink)
It is not necessary. Some prefer working exclusively with audio when mixing.
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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 3:57 PM (permalink)
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Well I was doing this in SONAR X3. I was always recording my softsynth instrument track into an audio track...



The only way you would have been able to do this is if your interface/soundcard has the virtual mixer set to record from the output (i.e. "Stereo mix" or "What U Hear"). If you're using an onboard soundcard, you probably switched the record input in the Windows mixer to "Line In" or "Mic" at some point.
 
In any case, recording from you interface output is going to result in sound-quality degradation and/or latency issues. Check out the recommendations to Freeze/Bounce instead of recording, or just go ahead and put audio FX/automation on the synth output track to process the real-time output from the synth without rendering it to file.

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Re: Help with recording a MIDI track to an audio track. July 29, 15 4:17 PM (permalink)
Well this is the first time I am trying to record stuff in SONAR Pro and also with a new Focusrite 18i8 audio interface.  I'm still figuring out the settings.
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