Audient iD14

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2015/07/31 20:45:41 (permalink)

Audient iD14

Does anyone know what the latency is for the Audient iD14?
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    Beagle
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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/02 16:23:49 (permalink)
    I had never heard of it before you posted this.  it looks good OK on paper, but I don't have any personal experience or know anyone who has used one.
     
    the noise floor is a little high, IMO, for a $300 unit, tho.

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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/03 14:26:41 (permalink)
    If we are comparing noise floors, most companies just publish the converter specs. The noise floor is 116dBA for the ID44 on the input and 117dBA for the output.  
     
    Here are the latency figures
     
    DSP MIXER LATENCY:ROUND TRIP (in-to-out)
    44.1kHz 1.660ms
    48.0kHz 1.531ms
    88.2kHz 0.844ms 
    96.0kHz 0.771ms

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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/04 04:08:58 (permalink)
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    If we are comparing noise floors, most companies just publish the converter specs. The noise floor is 116dBA for the ID44 on the input and 117dBA for the output.  
     
    Here are the latency figures
     
    DSP MIXER LATENCY:
    ROUND TRIP (in-to-out)
    44.1kHz 1.660ms
    48.0kHz 1.531ms
    88.2kHz 0.844ms 
    96.0kHz 0.771ms




    That's just the latencies of the DSP unit; conversion, ASIO-buffer and safety-buffer comes on top of that. I was checking out the ID22 a while back (not hands on, just by published specs and users' experiences) and I came to the conclusion that the latency performance was pretty meh under Windows, at least compared to the RME Babyface. On Mac you get a 32 samples driver buffer option which should be OK.
     
    The Audient units are reputed to have excellent "sound quality" for those who believe in that sort of thing...





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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/04 12:24:57 (permalink)
    Conversion is usually included in the DPS I/O latency.  ASIO buffers, USB, etc. are a different thing.  RME has the fastest latency in the biz, it is hard to compare.  
     
    Who doesn't believe in sound quality?  I certainly care more about that than latency.  

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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/05 02:04:37 (permalink)
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    Conversion is usually included in the DPS I/O latency.

     
    Okay this is probably true, but it's still only after taking into account the latency contribution of the safety buffer and the smallest ASIO buffer at which your interface can reliably operate that you get an idea of how well a given audio interface and its driver are going to work for you.
     
    That's why I don't find these types of manufacturer's stated figures very useful.
     
     
    Who doesn't believe in sound quality?  I certainly care more about that than latency.  



    Well, it's not that I don't "believe in sound quality" as such, but it is my opinion that you got to be running a pretty high end operation in order to appriecate such minute differences in AD or DA quality as would exist between all-in-one audio interfaces. That's why latency and reliability takes the front seat for me, since it's what allows you to actually make music efficiently.
     
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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/05 02:49:27 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know what the latency is for the Audient iD14?


    You might not be able to get a straight answer on that question, as everybody's system is different. Before I bought my first audio interface I tried to find out about latency, but in the end I just had to buy something and test it myself. I will say that round trip latency of less than one millisecond seems impossible. Super good quality interfaces register five times that much delay (in Sonar's "Driver Settings" dialog -- actual RTL is probably longer, due to hidden safety buffers in the hardware). I can tell you that it's pretty easy to work with a RTL of 10 msec., and I'll bet the ID14 can do that or better. But buy it someplace that lets you return it, no questions asked.

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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/08/05 03:13:56 (permalink)
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    Does anyone know what the latency is for the Audient iD14?


     Super good quality interfaces register five times that much delay (in Sonar's "Driver Settings" dialog -- actual RTL is probably longer, due to hidden safety buffers in the hardware). I can tell you that it's pretty easy to work with a RTL of 10 msec., and I'll bet the ID14 can do that or better. But buy it someplace that lets you return it, no questions asked.



    SONAR's reported RTL seems pretty accurate in my experience. The numbers I get are virtually identical to loop tests with the CEntrance utility.
     
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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/10/29 16:59:39 (permalink)
    I know this thread is a month or three old but I just picked up an id14, on my relatively new machine (i5 @ 3.8ghz, 8gb ram) I am getting 4.9ms reported RTL. I only got it this afternoon so no word just yet on how well it handles that latency but that is @ 64 samples/ 44.1khz. I also don't know how accurate the reported latency is because I was only getting ~4.4ms at the same settings on a pci maudio audiophile 192 but it certainly feels nice and snappy.
     
    @Larry, 1ms is not impossible my audiophile would do 1ms rtl at 192khz no problems, 10 plugins later my system was on its knees but it is very possible..
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    Re: Audient iD14 2015/10/29 17:04:52 (permalink)
    @ Sven about the sound quality, I do not have a high end monitoring setup, my monitors are a pair of lowly maudio bx5 d2, they cost me about £100 and the difference between my old interface and the id14 is night and day, even my girlfriend who has the worst ear known to man instantly heard how much better it sounded :D
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