Roxy
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Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
Hi,
I'm thinking about upgrading from my old think pad XP 32bit to a used Windows7 64bit laptop that I can get for a really good price.
I don't understand the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit operating systems. I don't want to buy new recording software.I'm hoping that my Sonar 8.3 will work on the new laptop.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 16:41:48
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I have 8.5.3 x64 working fine on Win7 x64
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 16:48:19
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I also have 8.0 x64 working fine on Win7 x64, so I guess 8.3 should work, too.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 17:00:04
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I just popped in my installation disc for Sonar 8 to see if there is a 64bit version on it. But it doesn't seem so.
Like I said, the minimum requirements ( writt en on the box)for the program is XP 32 bit. Does that mean it will automatically turn into 64bit when I install it on a 64bit operating system? Or is there son type of upgrade available?
I really don't know anything about the difference between 32 and 64 bit operating systems. Can someone please enlighten me. What are the advantages of 64 bit?
Thanks
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 18:28:26
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I thought even back then that SONAR 8 came with two DVDs, one for 32-bit and one for 64. But that could be mistaken. Oversimplified answers to your question: The primary difference is that a 32-bit OS can address only 4 GB of RAM. Since Windows takes up to 1.5 GB of that, you have at most maybe 3.2 GB to use for programs. If you have more than 4GB RAM in your computer, any more than 4 is not even used. If you use a lot of software synths and/or plugins, or record very many tracks, you will run out of RAM quickly and the system will swap out to disk and slow down. A secondary reason is that plugins are increasingly being made for 64-bit and if you use them with a 32-bit OS, you need a bridge program and might have system stability problems.
post edited by riojazz - 2015/08/08 18:37:28
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 18:33:44
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I am looking at my installed versions now. The icon that links to 8.0 says SONAR 8 Producer Edition (x64) and this was automatically generated- Also, the program is installed in the 64 bit area, i.e. C:\Program Files\Cakewalk, and not in the 32 bit area, which would be C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk. IIRC, you start Setup, and if you are on a 64 bit OS, you are asked which version you want to install - but it's a while back now, so I may be mistaken. Nevertheless, my 8.0 version is unquestionably 64 bit for reasons stated above. (PS: It may be the 64 bit was indeed not on the CD but only came later as a download - ? Not sure.) The advantage is that the 64 bit system can access far more memory. 32bit maxes out at 4GB, although due to various technicalities, I seem to remember XP32 only managed to make just over 2GB available, even if you put 4GB in your machine.
post edited by jpetersen - 2015/08/08 18:43:16
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 18:41:36
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riojazz reminded me of something: the 32bit version had some plugs that were not available for installing in the 64 bit version. This was because they were part of a suite that really only worked in 32bit and did not work with the bridge system. I remember now that it was for this reason that I installed the 32 bit versions as well, in an attempt to get those plugs to install. They DID install, but still did not appear in the 64 bit version.
The point I am making is that the 32 bit version did actually install and work in my Win7 64 bit machine.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 19:47:25
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Roxy
...Windows7 64bit laptop...I'm hoping that my Sonar 8.3 will work on the new laptop.
I had Sonar 7 installed on a W7-64 platform and it worked very well. In fact it was more stable than the Sonar X2 that I eventually upgraded to. Sonar 8 should work fine too.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 19:54:06
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2015/08/08 20:13:57
Roxy
I just popped in my installation disc for Sonar 8 to see if there is a 64bit version on it. But it doesn't seem so...
Assuming that it works the same way as Sonar 7, when you run the installer it will present you with the option of installing the 32 or 64 bit version. I would advise choosing 32 first. Get that up and running before tackling the 64-bit version.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/08 20:13:43
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Kev999
Roxy
I just popped in my installation disc for Sonar 8 to see if there is a 64bit version on it. But it doesn't seem so...
Assuming that it works the same way as Sonar 7, when you run the installer it will present you with the option of installing the 32 or 64 bit version. I would advise choosing 32 first. Get that up and running before tackling the 64-bit version.
I agree Kev... I have it running Win7Pro x64 on a MacPro under Bootcamp and it works just fine... It is really such a small program relative to drive sizes these days that at least whike making the changeover to full 64bit, one might as well install both 32/64 bit versions... 32bit first... I did this while making the transition, tho I no longer install the 32 bit versions as essentially all but 3 plugins I use are 64 bit. I still use VSampler for running Gigasampler libraries, and I have 2 (free) Leslue emulators that are only 32bit... I think the OP will be very pleased moving into the 64bit realm! Keni
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 02:56:57
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You can upgrade to Artist for $29 right now..
All versions going back to 7 have the options of 32 or 64 during install.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 03:54:59
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Actually all versions going back to Sonar 5 have the choice as that's when x64 Sonar was introduced. They it's been 10 years since Cakewalk went to 64 bit.
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Roxy
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 12:12:29
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So if I had a 2 GHz computer with 4 GIG RAM and I don't use a whole lot of softsynths, would there be a performance advantage if I installed the 32 bit instead of the 64 bit or does the bitrate have to match between the program and the operating system?
I'm thinking that maybe installing the 32 bit Sonar the computer wouldn't be working as hard as with the 64 and be faster as a result. But I'm not sure if that is really the case.
I'm not a high end pro so I don't need that ultimate sound quality,easy workflow and simplicity are my main concern. I'm just interested in upgrading because i am starting to find programs that I would like to try that won't even install on XP.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 12:20:45
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Roxy
So does the bitrate have to match between the program and the operating system?
Not quite. If you have a 64-bit operating system, you can choose to install 32-bit SONAR or 64-bit SONAR or both. If you have a 32-bit operating system, you have only one choice, to install 32-bit SONAR.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 13:06:48
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I would be looking at 64 bit windows, 64 bit Sonar with 8gb minimum as an upgrade. Even for an amateur. Otherwise why bother upgrading. Easy workflow and simplicity is everybodies priority. Avoid 32 bit as much as possible if you value performance and stability.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/09 13:17:12
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 14:45:10
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OK, I know what to do now with Sonar. Thanks for your help.
I have other programs I'm hoping they will work under win 7 64 bit. We'll see.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 16:00:46
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So if I had a 2 GHz computer with 4 GIG RAM and I don't use a whole lot of softsynths, would there be a performance advantage if I installed the 32 bit instead of the 64 bit or does the bitrate have to match between the program and the operating system?
I'm thinking that maybe installing the 32 bit Sonar the computer wouldn't be working as hard as with the 64 and be faster as a result. But I'm not sure if that is really the case.
It is possible that there might be a minimal performance advantage to going 64 bit Windows and Sonar, but the tradeoff is that you will have less available system memory on a 64 bit system with only 4 Gig. The 64 bit systems give each process access to more memory, but the system itself takes more memory to operate--eating into your total 4 Gig. So unless you have a single program that will be using more than 2 GB (or between 2-3 if you use special switches), you will not get any extra space for that program. Microsoft recommends 2 GB just to run Win 7 x 64 as opposed to 1 Gig for x32, so unless you are running more than 4 GB installed the advantage is with 32 bits in most cases.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 16:28:06
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The computer I'm looking at is from a refurbisher and I think I might be able to get him to put in a couple of extra goodies. What about Win 7 vs Win 8 ? He's got a couple of Win 8 machines too for not that much more money.Would Sonar 8 still work on one of those?
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 16:39:59
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Roxy
...if I installed the 32 bit instead of the 64 bit...
I would install both and judge for yourself.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 16:58:38
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/09 17:06:33
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Hey thanks again for all that info,I have a much clearer understanding now.
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/13 11:38:35
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64bit OS with Sonar 64bit using 6gb or less will not be good enough probably need 16gb is my conclusion!
I could be wrong...what do others think?
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Re: Will Sonar 8 work on windows7 64bit?
2015/08/13 11:42:45
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You can easily run on 8gb, I would certainly recommend 16gb however.
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