Show/Hide keybinding for plugin/VST Window? Possible feature request.

Good morning all. Happy Sunday.
 
So now that we have the handy dandy plugin window recycling (the new feature that opens all VSTs in the same window instead of letting them annoyingly pile up like in the past) I was wondering... were the Baker's thoughtful enough to provide a quick way to open and close this window with a keybinding? I figure now (if you have the plug window recycling enabled) it would be an extremely useful and easy to code in feature.
 
Essentially just like hitting D toggles the Multi Dock open/closed.
 
The problem in the past was there was no single VST window so a toggle binding would not really work. Of course those who disable the recycling thing would not be able to use it.
 
I guess make it so that windows that have either been pinned or docked in the MultiDock be excluded from the toggling (and when you do either of those things they are already extracted from that single plugin window anyway so probably not a problem to work around).
 
The closest thing I found in the default bindings list (in the manual) is Close Floating Window (Ctrl F4) but then it's gone and you can't "toggle" it back into view.
 
So if this does exist already I would like to know. If not this can be immediately moved to the Feature Request area (whenever any of the hosts feel like it... or not... whatevs).
 
An additional thing that might be cool is in the VST Window maybe have have a drop down "picker" type menu that lists all the plugins currently in the project which can then be selected from and load the plug into the window.
 
Since there are likely to be multiple instances of the same plug on multiple tracks maybe make it a hierarchy type picker.
 
So when you first click the dropdown you see just names of all the plugins in the project. If there is more than one instance you hover and get a secondary dropdow that lists all the instances of that plugin by track or clip name. Might get hairy logical working around how to set this up to deal with plugs inside FX Chains but I'm sure the Bakers could figure something out.
 
BUT the official Feature Request... if this becomes one is about a simple Toggle Plugin Window open/closed. Preferably as a default binding but if not at least an option in the Preferences Keyboard Shortcut editor thing.
 
Cheers!

Anderton
You can do it by setting X-Ray opacity to 0 in Preferences > Customization > Display, and assigning a key binding to "X-Ray all FX/Synths." I use Alt-X.

Interesting. I'm guessing that would affect pinned windows as well (which isn't a big problem for me because I don't often pin things).
 
However what does that do to Docked VSTs? I'm assuming it leaves them alone.
 
Anyway, good to know. Still might be nice to just have a specific toggle for that window so users are free to use the X-Ray options on other stuff (and so it does not affect pinned Plugs). Again that wouldn't really affect me because I don't really use X-Ray at this point.
 
Thanks.

Beepster

Anderton
You can do it by setting X-Ray opacity to 0 in Preferences > Customization > Display, and assigning a key binding to "X-Ray all FX/Synths." I use Alt-X.

Interesting. I'm guessing that would affect pinned windows as well (which isn't a big problem for me because I don't often pin things).

 
With the key binding I referenced, you can show/hide any visible effects and synths, pinned or unpinned.
 

However what does that do to Docked VSTs? I'm assuming it leaves them alone.

 
Yes.
 

Still might be nice to just have a specific toggle for that window so users are free to use the X-Ray options on other stuff (and so it does not affect pinned Plugs). Again that wouldn't really affect me because I don't really use X-Ray at this point.

The only advantage of having a separate option is if you want a key command to make the windows disappear entirely, and use X-Ray to make them more transparent but not disappear entirely. X-Ray was implemented to do what you want, but with the added flexibility of setting the window transparency. It's a great feature.

Beepster
However really the request here is just getting a toggle for the new VST window which is of course much simpler and nearly as flighty and insane.

Try X-Ray at 0 opacity. If I understand you correctly it does what you want.

Oh, I see...you want the windows to stack so that nuking one window reveals the one that was pinned previously...right? But window recycling doesn't work that way - the new effect window replaces the old effect window, they don't stack. I think this would require a pretty substantial rework, as SONAR would have to keep track of the history so you could step through the various effects replacements. It would also need to keep track of which effects belonged to which racks/FX bins because now, an effect from one track can replace an effect from a different track. So if you "undid" it might go back to an effect in a different track...

Have you tried CTRL+Tab and CTRL+SHIFT+Tab to switch between open windows in SONAR

scook
Have you tried CTRL+Tab and CTRL+SHIFT+Tab to switch between open windows in SONAR

Nope, but I will. Thanks
 

Anderton

Beepster
1) I click on Guitar Track 1's instance of TH2 (which opens it in the recycler window) and use the "Pin" option so it stays open on the screen (thus yanking it out of the recycler window)
 
2) I click on Guitar Track 2's instance of TH2 (which opens it in the recycler window)

 
In Step 2, just Ctrl-click on TH2 and it will open in a second window while leaving the original one intact. Set the windows so they overlap slightly and click on the one you want to edit. Or put the two side by side so you can compare tweakage.
 

To chaotic and fiddly (yes I do this though but usually dock one instance to get the toggle action). This is the type of thing I'm trying to avoid. I'm actually right in the middle of something that a VST window toggle would be brilliant for. Specifically bouncing back and forth between the AD2 key map window and the PRV... AND the Track View so I can solo specific tracks as I sort out what needs to go where.
 
It would be too long and difficult to explain what I'm doing (project specific) but a toggle for the AD2 VST recycler window would definitely speed it up as it would for a ton of other crazy stuff I do.
 
I bet you would LOVE this feature if you got your hands on it. It only makes sense now that we have the specific plug window. Don't think it would be too crazy to code.
 
All the tricks being posted are still extremely awesome though and appreciated as always.