Melodyne & Pitch to Midi

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2015/08/13 05:45:10 (permalink)

Melodyne & Pitch to Midi

I have recently  tried using melodyne to convert some of my own bass playing into midi with a view to using the resulting midi track to trigger a bass VST  and so far the results have been underwhelming.
 
Whilst the pitch is spot on it appears to just miss the start of a note on occasion. Now this could be a result of the way I play so is it just melodyne has problems with basses ? or is there something I can do to 'Process' the sound to give it a better chance of being more accurately converted, or should I just 'Dig In' when playing to over accentuate the start of a note
 
Is there some thing out there that does a better job ?
 
Thanks in advance 
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    mudgel
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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/13 06:23:34 (permalink)
    You need more time to learn the tools because this is the sort of stuff that Melodyne excels at.

    So to answer your question, Is there something better out there? Yep. A better operator. Sorry just taking th kick.

    There's tons of video tutorials at the Celemony site. They excel in support and training on how to use their products. While the product is generally intuitive it's at the peak of this type of software and requires some learning.

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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/13 08:08:25 (permalink)
    Pitch bend data is not included in audio->MIDI conversion unless you have Melodyne Studio. This can wreak havoc on string bends and hard string attacks. The best conversions come from simple playing style. I am not sure if the lower frequency plays into this, but on a guitar it is similar that much expression is lost.

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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/13 12:33:47 (permalink)
    Didn't want to start a new thread and the thread title covers it I think...Can Melodyne convert drum track audio into MIDI, or is it too polyphonic?
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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/13 16:10:37 (permalink)
    joden
    Didn't want to start a new thread and the thread title covers it I think...Can Melodyne convert drum track audio into MIDI, or is it too polyphonic?




    Melodyne has a percussion mode that will give you midi for each hit but it's not polyphonic so if you're talking about a stereo drum mix you can extract kick, snare, tom hits and crash cymbals with a little work. Hi-hat is another story. I think the Sonar Drum replacer is better at extracting drums from a stereo mix.
     
    For individual drum tracks Melodyne works great and behind the scenes: Just drag an audio clip to a midi track and adjust the midi data as needed in the piano roll view.
     
    Slate Digital Trigger still fits my workflow best for drum replacement on a per track basis.
     
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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/13 18:05:46 (permalink)
    thx Rocky  - I will have a look at that Slate Product...I have found Drum Replacer quite "underwhelming" in trying to work on a single drum track (as in all parts - kick, snare, hats etc etc) 
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    Re: Melodyne & Pitch to Midi 2015/08/14 08:45:36 (permalink)
    joden
    thx Rocky  - I will have a look at that Slate Product...I have found Drum Replacer quite "underwhelming" in trying to work on a single drum track (as in all parts - kick, snare, hats etc etc) 




    Glad to help. Trigger is pretty awesome. It's designed to work on individual kit piece tracks i.e. track 1 Kick, track 2 snare, track 3 tom, etc. and handles bleed well. It's doesn't work well with overheads.
     
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