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2015/08/15 06:25:17 (permalink)

Vista 64 and driver for focusrite

Hello fellows,
I have Vista 64 bit and the pro 40.
I'm not getting all my selectable input drivers including spdif. (Sonar x1)
Thanks for helping
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 06:59:22 (permalink)
Are you running the ASIO driver, I am aware that with my OLD 26 i/o only the ASIO drivers gave access to all the I/O unless you hacked the registry to activate them.

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 07:42:36 (permalink)
Yes ASIO Drivers
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 07:44:39 (permalink)
You don't say whether this is something that's just started happening or if it's never worked properly or what the case is.
 
That info will make a lot of difference on how we might approach giving you suggestions. Welcome to the forum

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 07:48:02 (permalink)
That's true
It has worked in the past. I moved and when I rehooked it up it apparently didn't remember the old drivers.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 07:49:27 (permalink)
Maybe it is the setup or the Safire control configuration I am using. Perhaps.....
11 and 12 are spdif?

I get the analog inputs 1,3,5,7 inputs (selectable)
The rest appear there but are not selectable.(in sonar x1 audio drivers)
post edited by reburgmusic - 2015/08/15 08:59:34
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 12:36:31 (permalink)
Which version of Mix control are you using?

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 12:56:50 (permalink)
Question(s):
 
Are we talking about "selectable" in the track inputs or in the Edit > Preferences > Audio - Devices section.
 
If you are merely talking about the available TRACK inputs go to your Sonar Audio Devices Preferences and make sure all those channels are selected. If they are grayed out then yes... something else is going on in which case....
 
What Samplerate are you set to?
 
I know that the ADAT/Optical connector (and such connectors in general) only allow 4 channels at 96khz samplerate and the full 8 at 48khz samplerate. So even though you said SPDIF is what is borking out maybe you meant the ADAT connection.
 
Just a couple longshot guesses/suggestions. Check that stuff out and return with your answers. If you solve the issue also return and post the solution for other users.
 
Cheers!
 
Edit: And please check out Wookie's question. I will follow that up with "Did you install the drivers from the disc that came with the hardware or did you download the most updated driver version for Vista?"
 
The reason this is important is because you generally do NOT want to install drivers from included discs because they are almost ALWAYS outdated and Focusrite did indeed have some problems with their drivers quite a few years back (so Vista may have been affected). Check for the LATEST Vista drivers on the Focusrite website and make sure you actually have them installed (check the point/version number... if they match you are good... if not dowanload and install the most recent Vista drivers).
post edited by Beepster - 2015/08/15 13:08:01
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:02:41 (permalink)
Try 3.6.. At your own risk as it says nothing about Vista. You could ask Focusrite if it might work (they won't support it however).
http://global.focusrite.c...saffire-mix-control-36

Note this will also update your firmware.
3.6 is definitely the saffires best ever drivers by a mile at least on win 8.1.

If you install I strongly recommend you unibstall the previous drivers l, reboot, install latest, reboot, reset everything in mix control, save to hardware and back up your settings.

If 3.6 works make sure you remove the lagacy FireWire driver if you have that installed afterwards.

Always backup.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/15 13:13:32

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:08:21 (permalink)
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Try 3.6.. At your own risk as it says nothing about Vista. You could ask Focusrite if it might work (they won't support it however).
http://global.focusrite.c...saffire-mix-control-36

Note this will also update your firmware.
3.6 is definitely the saffires best ever drivers by a mile at least on win 8.1.



I would like to point out VERY emphatically the "AT YOUR OWN RISK" part of Dok's post.
 
You should not install drivers for an OS other than the one you are using.
 
Sorry, Alex but that is jumping the gun by a mile. There are still some questions that need to be answered before trying out mismathced drivers.
 
Yanno  I lurvs ya but there are other easier and more logical solutions to try first. The Vista drivers should be okay. If they aren't posted on their site a quick email to Focusrite support should get OP a download.
 
Cheers.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:11:21 (permalink)
Excuse me beep I wrote at your own risk and check with Focusrite, and always backup. I also stated that Vista was not listed for this version of mix control. Say what you like but I gave full due warning. I avoid caps.

There is a good chance these drivers will work just not supported. Much like win10 driver issues. He should contact Focusrite IMHO.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/15 13:22:07

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:14:13 (permalink)
Again mix control not only updates drivers bit firmware as well...

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:19:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Doktor Avalanche 2015/08/15 21:18:37
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Excuse me beep I wrote at your own risk and check with Focusrite, and always backup. I also stated that Vista was not listed for this version of mix control. Say what you like but I gave full due warning.

There is a good chance these drivers will work just not supported. Much like win10 driver issues. He should contact Focusrite IMHO.



I am not slagging you, man. I was just making sure the OP got extra warning. I do think this is likely a much simpler issue to resolve than installing a mismatched driver.
 
Troubleshooting is about starting with the path of least resistance/using Occam's Razor... n'est ce pas? No need to get offended.
 
Seriously... please don't get offended. I'm just trying to suggest some simple solutions to get OP his missing channels back.
 
Aye?
 
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 13:48:07 (permalink)
I thought this might be interesting.
 

 
Apparently Sonar platinum runs in Windows Vista operating system context, under Windows 10.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 14:14:15 (permalink)
It's a conspiracy I tells ya'.

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 14:16:02 (permalink)
The Adat connection is what I used before, I believe. And yes options- audio drivers - ASIO drivers of which some are grayed out.
Its been about 3 years since I had it going. I know I had to purchase a TI f/w card to get it to work.
Thank you
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 14:16:03 (permalink)
Thanks
I have contacted focusrite and waiting. It was previously working.
I'm not 100% but I think I'm using 2.1 mix control

Updating the mix control is how u update the drivers.
And a long time ago focusrite sent me an email with a working mix control update.
post edited by reburgmusic - 2015/08/15 14:46:19
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/15 21:11:48 (permalink)
Nope totally get your Beep... But I differ I think from top downwards from a software level... it's far easier to troubleshoot that way esp when you are looking a dependencies. You then move onto other things...
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/16 02:36:42 (permalink)
Don't forget that Sonar only displays the odd numbered inputs and outputs.

You typically end up with
1= 1 Left, 2 Right, Stereo
3= 3 Left, 4 Right, Stereo etc
While on your audio device you might have inputs 1-8 and outputs 1-8 in sonar they will appear as above"

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/16 08:16:00 (permalink)
You may also find you will need to change from Legacy firewire driver when you move up to Mix Control 3.6

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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/16 14:53:59 (permalink)
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/16 14:59:18 (permalink)
Thanks to everyone for their input. I'm very grateful. Its not easy to admit fault but I guess I was loading an earlier version of sonar. Ver 8.1. I loaded up sonar x1.5 and it looks like it will work. It was too late to try anything but the drivers were all there and selected. Once again, great support.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/16 15:11:54 (permalink)
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Thanks to everyone for their input. I'm very grateful. Its not easy to admit fault but I guess I was loading an earlier version of sonar. Ver 8.1. I loaded up sonar x1.5 and it looks like it will work. It was too late to try anything but the drivers were all there and selected. Once again, great support.



If you get a chance could you maybe elaborate a bit (for the sake of others searching similar issues and for my own weirdo curiosity)?
 
If I am understanding this correctly the reason behind the missing driver channels was because you were opening your project in Sonar 8.1 when you intended to open it in X1. Yes?
 
Now I'm no brain monkey and I did not own anything before X1 but in Sonar 8 I'd imagine you'd be able to have access to all the same channels from your interface as you would in X1. Basically those inputs should always be there no matter what DAW you are using... as far as I know.
 
Just trying to understand why you would lose input options between the two versions. Lots of other wierd stuff can happen when opening projects in different versions but this is a new one to me (admittedly I encoutner new things daily).
 
Glad you got it working though.
 
Cheers.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/20 13:57:56 (permalink)
Okay, I'll try... this is my theory
based on my experiences.

Theothers will. If you are recording digitally spdif or optical, then it all depends on frequency lock.
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/21 14:00:27 (permalink)
Anyone else use optical 96hz locked
Input and output?
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/21 14:20:45 (permalink)
You should have left the extra details in your previous post. IIRC you were having a problem with external devices screwing up at different samplerates. This is important.
 
I saw that post earlier but wasn't smart enough to help. Thing is you need to keep external devices in sync and based on your now edited post that you had external gear or something inside sonar set weird. Not enough details were provided.
 
The only advice I can give (and it is paranoid, dum dum, non professional advice) is keep everything sync'd. Always use the exact sample rate and bit depth through out a specific project until it is completed. When using external gear, if it has any settings like this make sure they match up to your project, soundcard and whatever else is going on.
 
Just keep everything consistent and bad things are less likely to occur. There are several mechanisms that allow mismathced this thats and the other to play reasonably well together in Sonar but my philosophy is... don't tempt fate. Unless you REALLY know what you are doing make sure everything matches up wherever and whenever possible.
 
More details will help the smarter dudes help you.
 
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Re: Vista 64 and driver for focusrite 2015/08/21 16:51:21 (permalink)
I know what I'm doing but thanks for the reply. I thought it might sound complicated.
Thank you so much again
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