Why are some "Freeze" buttons in my Synth Rack "grey'd out" but not others?

You're welcome Beepster...
 

It was a coincidence that it happen to me last night,  I only remembered it when I saw your original post :-)

DRanck
I don't see it as a bug. Freezing means bouncing, and you don't / can't bounce muted tracks.

Tracks weren't muted though. The "toggle" on the mute has to occur in the Synth Rack.
 
Essentially I had full active synths going to fully active MIDI tracks and audio outputs (totally audible and rippin' away).
 
When I went to the synth rack two of the five synths' Freeze Buttons were grey'd out (unable to Freeze).
 
By clicking one of the Mute buttons on one of the two synths affected (clicking on the Mute buttons in the actual synth rack) made the Freeze buttons become automagically available. It was weird and I don't think without Songroom's coincidental discovery I would have figured it out.
 
Probably requires further testing...
 
I actually now am realizing maybe I created a circumstance that led to this though.... and perhaps I lied a little when I said nothing was muted. The SI Bass track MAY have been muted BUT the new DimPro track was definitely not muted. They were somewhat connected in the sense I manually copied the MIDI clip into the new DimPro track (I wanted the SI Bass track to play through DP instead... and I MANUALLY set up the DP track... I did not let the insert synth options do it for me).
 
Whatever... if it is a specific bug related to that somehow then maybe I have uncovered something completely obscure (due to manually setting up the MIDI and Instrument tracks then copying the MIDI from a (possibly) muted track into it). The new, unmuted, DimPro track should not have been affected even if the SI Bass track was muted AND by toggling the DimPro instance' mute button in the rack should not have made the Freeze button available on the muted SI track under the conditions you describe.
 
I am not making any sense at this point so I'll stop but yeah... this may have happened under some strange conditions and may be what happened to Songroom as well.
 
Anyway... I'll keep an eye on it and see if I encounter any more weird behavior. I am doing a lot of manual synth set up and pasting MIDI into that setup's MID track so if that IS the case this will likely happen again.
 
 
Cheers!

The button will be grayed out if the synth is a Transformer - patched inside a track effects bin instead of the synth rack. In that case you can't independently freeze the synth.

Toggling the mute butto has worked for me in the past.  I cannot give steps to reproduce, but it does seem to happen to SITs that have been frozen and then unfrozen.

Let me know when you all think this thread should be moved to the Problem Reports forum and I will do it.

Hi, Konradh... no EZD2 on my project either.
 
The synths in my project are Cakewalk products or came with Sonar (AD2).
 
SI Bass, DimPro (these are the ones that had the greyd out freeze... but not all instances)
 
SI Strings, AD2, Z3TA+ 2 (no problems with these)
 
Cheers.
 
 

I have been watching this thread Beep in case I can help or do anything. At present I see no reason to move it. That could change at any time. Don't worry about it. 

jb101
@beeps - had you frozen and unfrozen the tracks that displayed this issue?

Hi, jb.
 
Nope. I rarely Freeze anything. I was just attempting the synth Freezing because this was/is a particularly huge project so I wanted free up some resources before getting ultra crazy with some heavier duty FX on the final mix phase.
 
Cheers.

I have seen this on multiple occasions on different projects.  I have been using the mute/unmute work-around.  The last time, the work-around  resulted in Sonar crashing.  Please move.  I suspect using the solo on other tracks my be the cause.

Just found this thread while I was searching for something else. I too find this situation often (where the freeze is grayed out) on AD2. 
 
I have never tried the mute/unmute solution. What I've always found is that I can right-click the freeze button and there is a menu item to "freeze Synth" which always seems to work for me. Been doing that for years.
 
gabo