Anyone have Kirnu Cream?

I've been trying to install Kirnu Cream and am having a problem with it. It installed by default in the VST instrument folder. For the life of me I can't move it to the MIDI effects folder, which means I can't plug it into a MIDI track. This is not good for using an arppeggiator. I can't find help at the Kirnu website. I tried to connect a midi track to an audio track with Cream in it, and then output the Cream to yet another midi track. That doesn't work.
 
So, first, how do I move Cream to the MIDI effects folder in utilities, or is it supposed to be in the VST instrument folder, and if so how do you use it.
I'm running Platinum on a Win 7/64 with 16 gigs of RAM. Any help will help.

Does Kirnu Cream still crash if you load more than one instance in Sonar?
(that kept me from getting this......however, the free Kirnu Arp was great).

Fleer
It's available for $40 at PluginBoutique. Worth it?

Might be worth to give the a Demo a shot in Logic?? (I just remember some people having issues in Sonar when loading multiple instances)

Thanks Steve....good to know.
Now, I can dig under the couch for change....

No, Cream did not crash, but it still does not work. 
 
Drop Kirnu Cream into an instrument track Presumably you mean an audio track, correct? Because Cream installed itself under VST instruments and it is impossible for me to put Cream in a MIDI track, just audio tracks. If this is wrong I'll need some help getting it to the correct folder.
Make sure select "Enable MIDI Output" (this is the default) If we are still talking about a MIDI output on an audio track then I haven't been able to do it. There is a drop-down box where you can identify a MIDI output, but it never stays as such. It always reverts to an audio output.
Enable Echo On in the track We're talking about the buttons that turn blue? No effect on anything
Set the input to your controller (if planning to record through Kirnu Cream) For the moment I am using a track of MIDI data. It doesn't seem to penetrate Cream in the audio track.
In the target instrument or MIDI track set the input to Kirnu Cream Cream does not show up in the list of MIDI inputs. 
Enable Echo On the target track. Nothing leaves the audio track to the MIDI receiving track.
I suspect, from advice given, that Cream should not be in the VST instrument folder, it should be in a MIDI folder, like where the Cakewalk MIDI arpeggiator is. Could someone just yes or no me on this? If so, maybe a tip on how I can download Cream into the correct folder and the address of the folder.
 

Bob In Portland
No, Cream did not crash, but it still does not work. 
 
Drop Kirnu Cream into an instrument track Presumably you mean an audio track, correct? Because Cream installed itself under VST instruments and it is impossible for me to put Cream in a MIDI track, just audio tracks. If this is wrong I'll need some help getting it to the correct folder.

I guess I should have said insert it into the project using an instrument track, not an audio track. While SONAR allows synths to be added to audio FX bins, Cream needs MIDI input it would need a MIDI track anyway. In this case, an instrument track makes sense. Cream is a VST, it cannot go into a MIDI FX bin. Drag Cream to the project checking these boxes in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog

 

Bob In Portland
Make sure select "Enable MIDI Output" (this is the default) If we are still talking about a MIDI output on an audio track then I haven't been able to do it. There is a drop-down box where you can identify a MIDI output, but it never stays as such. It always reverts to an audio output.

This is the default for Cream. Just an FYI, it can be checked in the synth rack by right-clicking on the synth

The settings is also visible in the VST header and if not set when a plug-in is inserted, can be set there too

 

Bob In Portland
Enable Echo On in the track We're talking about the buttons that turn blue? No effect on anything
Set the input to your controller (if planning to record through Kirnu Cream) For the moment I am using a track of MIDI data. It doesn't seem to penetrate Cream in the audio track.
In the target instrument or MIDI track set the input to Kirnu Cream Cream does not show up in the list of MIDI inputs. 
Enable Echo On the target track. Nothing leaves the audio track to the MIDI receiving track.
I suspect, from advice given, that Cream should not be in the VST instrument folder, it should be in a MIDI folder, like where the Cakewalk MIDI arpeggiator is. Could someone just yes or no me on this? If so, maybe a tip on how I can download Cream into the correct folder and the address of the folder.

All of this is going to be a problem if the first few steps are not performed correctly. Here is a small video showing a loop running in the Cream track,
enabling echo on the Cream track,
setting the input on the DPro track to Cream Omni or the appropriate Cream Channel.
and once echo is set on the DPro track, the meter starts to indicate audio signal in the DPro track.

Cream seems to be installed properly, it is a synth as far as SONAR is concerned.

scook, I don't know if you remember the Grand Funk Railroad, but I'm getting closer to my home.
Not quite there. I'm going to read my Sonar X2 power book by Garrigus and read and reread the section on instrument tracks, because I'm still not getting any sound out of the Cream to an accompanying track. I have no idea where I'm screwing up. I will let you know, here, whether or not I eventually have any success.

Bob In Portland
scook, I don't know if you remember the Grand Funk Railroad, but I'm getting closer to my home.
Not quite there. I'm going to read my Sonar X2 power book by Garrigus and read and reread the section on instrument tracks, because I'm still not getting any sound out of the Cream to an accompanying track.

There is no real magic to the instrument track. You might get away with just a MIDI track because the plug-in does not generate any audio. I just prefer to provide synths a complete routing and for this application an instrument track works fine.
 
This is a also a case where X2 documentation is subtly different than X3 an newer.
 
I sent you a PM which might help.

This looks like the show http://www.wolfgangsvault...program/FME691205.html