sausy1981
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New mastering template.
Hi guys, I seen the video for the new start page and there is mention of a new mastering template. I was wondering if there any images anywhere, I have searched but to no avail.
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Andrew
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Doktor Avalanche 
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 07:14:48
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Don't see any, and it looks like it you've only got a week or less to wait anyway... Ta.
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 11:02:03
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In Feedback Loop, Features and Ideas, we were posting about what we wanted. Maybe this could help at least show what's been read by The Bakers: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mastering-in-Sonar-m3192468.aspx#3251365Not to say their ideas won't supersede ours, or that we should expect any exact implementations of these ideas, I feel safe to say surely it's had some influence. If you have mixing and mastering workflows all in one suite, that could be a strong step ahead of the competition in features and cost. But we'll see what comes out. I'm excited.
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sausy1981
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 12:35:26
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In Feedback Loop, Features and Ideas, we were posting about what we wanted. Maybe this could help at least show what's been read by The Bakers: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mastering-in-Sonar-m3192468.aspx#3251365
Not to say their ideas won't supersede ours, or that we should expect any exact implementations of these ideas, I feel safe to say surely it's had some influence. If you have mixing and mastering workflows all in one suite, that could be a strong step ahead of the competition in features and cost. But we'll see what comes out. I'm excited.
Yeah I contributed to that thread, I'm excited to see what comes out.
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 12:52:52
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 14:27:35
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I don't suppose any of the suggestions for a mastering template was to include a loudness meter by any chance?
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 14:30:52
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/08/24 14:56:03
In the previous thread (and others) there have been requests/suggestions for more robust metering options in general. I think it ultimately comes down to how Cakewalk develops their software moving forward. If they elect to make Sonar a one-stop-shop for mixing and mastering (including red book authoring, capabilities of wave editors etc.) I imagine a metering suite would probably be included. As of right now it's likely just a screenset with some tracks/busses set up so a person can jump right into mastering using Sonar's existing tools (and whatever plugins you have) as opposed to new tools/functionality designed for the mastering process.
post edited by streckfus - 2015/08/24 14:43:16
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/24 14:49:05
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brconflict
In Feedback Loop, Features and Ideas, we were posting about what we wanted. Maybe this could help at least show what's been read by The Bakers: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mastering-in-Sonar-m3192468.aspx#3251365
Not to say their ideas won't supersede ours, or that we should expect any exact implementations of these ideas, I feel safe to say surely it's had some influence. If you have mixing and mastering workflows all in one suite, that could be a strong step ahead of the competition in features and cost. But we'll see what comes out. I'm excited.
Yeah I contributed to that thread, I'm excited to see what comes out.
IIRC I didn't contribute but I'll be pi$$ed if my ideas are NOT included. 
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 12:52:32
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Looks like we get our first peek at the Template. Certainly not what I'd hoped. I use Wavelab because of the experience and workflow, not to mention the valuable large-scale metering and Mastering chain, among other specific-use tools. Plug-ins and editing need to be the forefront of all this. In a Mastering studio, the EQs, Compressors, meters, etc. and DAW editor are all at the forefront of everything. Here, those things are hidden behind clicks, [+] boxes, or simply take a back seat (they're still small). Well, maybe this can evolve over time. I'd like to see the interface change for this vs. tweaking the existing options in the mix console. Thanks to Cakewalk for listening and working toward what we want, however. I don't want valiant efforts to seem pointless or unappreciated.
post edited by brconflict - 2015/08/26 13:33:26
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 13:42:41
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It's simply a template for hosting mastering-oriented plug-ins, not a mastering suite by any means. I believe Cakewalk is still digesting all the suggestions about "real" mastering options to determine next steps.
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brconflict
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 13:47:45
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It's simply a template for hosting mastering-oriented plug-ins, not a mastering suite by any means. I believe Cakewalk is still digesting all the suggestions about "real" mastering options to determine next steps.
Well, that's honest. I can truly believe that. My main concern with the workflow there, is, it needs to be large and simple. As we know, analog Mastering studios tend to have all unessential objects and distractions removed from the room. That should be what it feels like. Thanks!
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 13:58:15
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As we know, analog Mastering studios tend to have all unessential objects and distractions removed from the room. That should be what it feels like. Thanks!
Well then, you'll probably be disappointed to hear that as far as I know, there's no "banish lead guitarists" button  . I actually have no idea what's planned, the timeframe, or what will be implemented. But CW did ask for opinions not that long ago and there was quite a response, so I imagine any implementation is a ways off.
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 15:01:47
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As we know, analog Mastering studios tend to have all unessential objects and distractions removed from the room. That should be what it feels like. Thanks!
Well then, you'll probably be disappointed to hear that as far as I know, there's no "banish lead guitarists" button .
Them's fightin' words! Okay, not so much. I'm not nearly good enough to qualify myself as a lead guitarist. But if any snide comments are made about rhythm guitarists then we sir are going to have a problem... :)
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 15:21:53
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I don't play leads, since I cannot play guitar, but I'm in the midst of repairing a 1975 Les Paul Deluxe for our lead-guitarist. Thankfully Gibson-branded hardware exists in the after-market market. I guess this will do quite the opposite and make him more distracting!
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Re: New mastering template.
2015/08/26 15:38:04
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It's my opinion that if you can't play (at least) E-D-A (i.e. "Gloria") on guitar you should not be allowed to to be near a guitar let alone repair one. 
Not to hijack the thread, but nope, can't play a chord. However I can tune, repair, set action, and then intonation by ear, and people (oddly) do trust my work. I play bass, if that's remotely close. heh.
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