Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost.

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2015/08/02 12:21:59 (permalink)

Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost.

Below are several articles about what you agree to when upgrading to Windows 10.  Most of the settings can be turned off but are not always easy to find and how can you turn them off when you don't know about them.  Microsoft's privacy and security policies add up to 45 pages.  I'm sure everyone has read them.  This version collects more of your private information and exerts more control over your devices than ever before.  Educate yourself and think twice before committing.
 
Windows 10: Here Are The Privacy Issues You Should Know About

 
Windows 10: A Potential Privacy Mess, and Worse

 
The Real Price of Windows 10 is your Privacy

 
Windows 10's New Feature Steals Your Internet Bandwidth

 
What is the "Get Windows 10" Tray Item and How Do You Remove It?

 
 
 
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    nedramage
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/02 12:42:01 (permalink)
    Sorry, I didn't think about the URLs being blocked.  I don't post often.  Those are the exact titles of the articles, just search for them.
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 09:43:40 (permalink)
    Although I haven't read those articles (yet), this is somewhat of a concern for me (Win 10 Privacy issues).......what are everyone's thoughts on this? What can Microsoft realistically do with this info?

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 13:00:58 (permalink)
    It's been stated that when you install WIN 10 be sure to NOT bypass the privacy options where you can tell WIN 10 to not share ANY info with ANYONE (or ANYJUAN).
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 13:33:24 (permalink)
    Thanks Baps....will look for that during the upgrade. Noel also gave it a thumbs up (Win 10) and didn't seem to worry too much about the security/privacy issues.

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 13:46:56 (permalink)
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    Thanks Baps....will look for that during the upgrade. Noel also gave it a thumbs up (Win 10) and didn't seem to worry too much about the security/privacy issues.


    That post you made has already been scanned by at least 1,000 spider by now.
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 16:00:01 (permalink)
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    Sorry, I didn't think about the URLs being blocked.  I don't post often.  Those are the exact titles of the articles, just search for them.




    Why were the URL's blocked?
     

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 16:01:11 (permalink)
    Also, I am really thinking about holding off on the upgrade because of this issue.  I want to look into exactly what's going on and how much of the info skimming you can block.
     

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 16:02:12 (permalink)
    This is why I only have about 5 apps on my phone and none of them share that much data.
     

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/03 16:18:48 (permalink)
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    Also, I am really thinking about holding off on the upgrade because of this issue.  I want to look into exactly what's going on and how much of the info skimming you can block.
     


    According to those that have used it you can block EVERYTHING because here i9n US wh have right to privacy laws and M$ does want to be accused of not honoring those laws.
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/04 01:21:02 (permalink)
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    Sorry, I didn't think about the URLs being blocked.  I don't post often.  Those are the exact titles of the articles, just search for them.


    Why were the URL's blocked?
     

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/26 19:24:19 (permalink)
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    SF_Green
    Also, I am really thinking about holding off on the upgrade because of this issue.  I want to look into exactly what's going on and how much of the info skimming you can block.
     

    According to those that have used it you can block EVERYTHING because here i9n US wh have right to privacy laws and M$ does want to be accused of not honoring those laws.

     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23285642
     




    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/26 19:32:43

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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/30 03:34:37 (permalink)
    Well - I have three concerns with Windows 10...
     
    First: Some hardware will simply not function with the new Windows 10 model drivers.
    I am one of the "victims", because my Focusrite Saffire (white standing model) and Firewire card combination that works perfectly under Windows 7, just plainly refuses to work under Windows 10. As an new audio interface with the same number of I/O is outside my budget at this time, I will stick with Windows 7. 
     
    Second: automatic updates that cannot be blocked by the user.
    Already some people with Nvidia cards have had lots of problems with this one. I can imagine that some driver updates can cause havoc, because you have older hardware and newer drivers just do not work (as is my case).
     
    Third: Privacy concerns.
    Even when you disable all possible data send to Microsoft and create an local account only, there is still lots of data that will be send to Microsoft, if you like it or not.
     
    Read this article: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/?comments=1
     
    One of the comments on this article about the ULA makes me especially suspicious. I citate:
     
    "Content. We collect content of your files and communications when necessary to provide you with the services you use. This includes: the content of your documents, photos, music or video you upload to a Microsoft service such as OneDrive. It also includes the content of your communications sent or received using Microsoft services, such as the:
    - subject line and body of an email,
    - text or other content of an instant message,
    - audio and video recording of a video message, and
    - audio recording and transcript of a voice message you receive or a text message you dictate."
     
    I wonder how much insight Microsoft has in the creations and documents from my clients stored on an Windows 10 computer. This kind of things makes me feel unsafe to say the least.
    post edited by JClosed - 2015/08/30 03:43:05
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/30 12:52:31 (permalink)
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    According to those that have used it you can block EVERYTHING because here i9n US wh have right to privacy laws and M$ does want to be accused of not honoring those laws.




    According to those who have studied it you certainly cannot block EVERYTHING. You can block some of EVERYTHING, often at the cost of disabling a "feature" that might otherwise be useful, but how to do so is not always obvious. Like everything internet connected you are going to be leaving an exploitable trail of activity, and if you use the Microsoft services that so conveniently integrate with Win 10 you are going to be exposing a lot of your data. Windows 10 is not the only OS to do snooping. What protects us in the US is clearly not our privacy laws which are virtually non-existent in the digital realm, but customer backlash. If the EU did not have privacy laws that Microsoft does not want to run afoul of, it would almost certainly be a lot harder to block ANYTHING in Windows 10.
     
    http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/30/windows-10-and-privacy/
     
    http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/659769.pdf
     
     
    post edited by slartabartfast - 2015/08/30 13:10:47
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    Re: Windows 10 and your privacy: Free but with a high cost. 2015/08/30 14:36:53 (permalink)
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    Well - I have three concerns with Windows 10...
     
    First: Some hardware will simply not function with the new Windows 10 model drivers.
    I am one of the "victims", because my Focusrite Saffire (white standing model) and Firewire card combination that works perfectly under Windows 7, just plainly refuses to work under Windows 10. As an new audio interface with the same number of I/O is outside my budget at this time, I will stick with Windows 7. 
     
    Second: automatic updates that cannot be blocked by the user.
    Already some people with Nvidia cards have had lots of problems with this one. I can imagine that some driver updates can cause havoc, because you have older hardware and newer drivers just do not work (as is my case).


    I probably have the same issue as you, saffire with VIA FireWire chipset. I don't feed a 'victim' because I make sure the drivers will work before I upgrade to an OS for good. At the very least I can roll back or restore from backup.

    The nvidia card issues happened during the beta period. If you are using betas this is fair game.

    From what I can see you can disable all the features that will take away your privacy apart from the NSA.

    If people want to use cloud based storage and trust somebody else with their docs, it's up to them but I certainly do not.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/30 14:47:14

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