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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 04:34:07 (permalink)
Hi Scott-
 
Loved it! Thanks for that. I was gonna say "Rain" and "Come Together" might be my two favorites, but then I started coming up with more and more others...  I'm glad Ringo's finally gotten/getting the respect he's so long deserved, because when I was growing up (I was at their 1965 concert at Shea Stadium!), the Beatles were huge, but he was sort of considered the "goofy" or "puppy dog" one or whatever and pretty much left out of the conversations about Lennon & McCartney's songwriting and Harrison's guitar work, so I think for a (long) while his contributions and musicianship were vastly under-rated.
 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 04:54:45 (permalink)
Heart warming...
Ringo was always my favourite. I named my secret diary after him :o)

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 05:54:36 (permalink)
But what are your favorite three Beatles songs that Ringo wrote? 

 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 09:08:06 (permalink)
Three favorite? Gotta be Octopus's Garden, Octopus's Garden, Octopus's Garden; doesn't it?
Did he write anything else?
Favorite Beatle; Ringo!
Favorite drummer of the era? Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.
Oh man, I wanted to BE Brian Jones; looked like the best job in rock.
But, you gotta love Ringo, the man just exudes "cool", right up there with Dino for that!
 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 10:48:56 (permalink)
Thanks for that link, K. Before watching that I hadn't made the connection between "Rain" and "We are the Waiting". 


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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 12:16:53 (permalink)
Thanks for that. I group up on the Beatles, but didn't appreciate how much Ringo's drumming meant to all those songs until I was much older. One of the great drummers for sure!
 

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 13:44:08 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I'm not sure that today's audiences would appreciate a lot of Ringo's drumming. He had as much touch as he had anything else, and he was not a metronomic, boring, drummer!

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 14:29:59 (permalink)
I remember a quip made by John in the studio (post Beatles) when he told the drummer "Play it like Ringo".
 
Nuff said.
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 15:24:01 (permalink)
bapu
I remember a quip made by John in the studio (post Beatles) when he told the drummer "Play it like Ringo".
 
Nuff said.




I remember another when he was asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world...
 
(actually that may not have ever happened)

 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 16:47:23 (permalink)
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...Nuff said.




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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 17:19:51 (permalink)
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Three favorite? Gotta be Octopus's Garden, Octopus's Garden, Octopus's Garden; doesn't it?
Did he write anything else?
Favorite Beatle; Ringo!
Favorite drummer of the era? Charlie Watts of The Rolling Stones.
Oh man, I wanted to BE Brian Jones; looked like the best job in rock.
But, you gotta love Ringo, the man just exudes "cool", right up there with Dino for that!
 
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That's sort of the joke.  However, he actually wrote TWO songs.  The second one was Don't Pass Me By.  He also sang lead on 11 songs.
 
Oh yeah, and he got the job because he was a much more accomplished drummer than Pete Best (the Gingerbread Man). 

 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 18:31:25 (permalink)
And a little known fact (that is rarely mentioned or remembered); Ringo was more famous (in the UK) than The Beatles were when he joined them.
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/01 18:47:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/09/02 13:55:44
When Jim Keltner says Ringo's the greatest...quit arguing.

Done deal.

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/02 15:26:13 (permalink)


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Re: Ringo 2015/09/03 20:24:49 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, and he got the job because he was a much more accomplished drummer than Pete Best (the Gingerbread Man). 



Not quite correct.  It could be said that Best was actually a technically superior drummer than Ringo.  According to the book 'Lennon' by Tim Riley what Ringo did was interesting.  Lennon said that in the songs in the areas where Best quietened down and played simpler and softer, Ringo did the opposite and got louder and really used the tom toms in a way that Best was just not doing.
 
At first Lennon said he did not like it, because he would have been used to the way Best had been doing it for those three years in Hamburg.  But then Lennon caught on realised how good it actually was and then he said the songs changed quite a bit as a result of the way Ringo started playing them and then the others just loved it and so they stuck with him. 
 
Lennon said one of the hardest things he ever had to do in his life was to fire Best.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/03 20:31:30 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, and he got the job because he was a much more accomplished drummer than Pete Best (the Gingerbread Man). 



Not quite correct.  It could be said that Best was actually a technically superior drummer than Ringo.  According to the book 'Lennon' by Tim Riley what Ringo did was interesting.  Lennon said that in the songs in the areas where Best quietened down and played simpler and softer, Ringo did the opposite and got louder and really used the tom toms in a way that Best was just not doing.
 
At first Lennon said he did not like it, because he would have been used to the way Best had been doing it for those three years in Hamburg.  But then Lennon caught on realised how good it actually was and then he said the songs changed quite a bit as a result of the way Ringo started playing them and then the others just loved it and so they stuck with him. 
 
Lennon said one of the hardest things he ever had to do in his life was to fire Best.
 
 
 
 
 
 


Conflicting views abound for sure. 
 
According to TUNE IN by Mark Lewsohn Pete was "in" because of his Mom and their connection to play in her club. Too many references where made in that book about how Pete just could not keep good time especially at the harder/faster stuff (which was the direction they were heading after their first Hamburg trip.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/03 22:45:11 (permalink)
I seem to remember George Martin also suggesting that a better drummer was needed to replace Best.

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/03 23:35:37 (permalink)
Good points.  I heard it from George when we were downing some jars and chatting up a few birds. 

 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/04 10:10:43 (permalink)
Jeff Evans
...
Not quite correct.  It could be said that Best was actually a technically superior drummer than Ringo.  According to the book 'Lennon' by Tim Riley what Ringo did was interesting.  Lennon said that in the songs in the areas where Best quietened down and played simpler and softer, Ringo did the opposite and got louder and really used the tom toms in a way that Best was just not doing.
 ...
 


This might just be the mark of a very good drummer ... using the quieter spaces and making them sound better and come up to the rest of the piece of music!
 
Makes sense to me ... why waste a passage or chord change by sounding the same and playing the same like all the Berklee musicians?

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Re: Ringo 2015/09/05 09:35:28 (permalink)
I like that he just ended up playing backwards, which helped him sound unique.  Meaning that he was opposite-handed , but when learning to play just learned on a right-handed setup, so his fills sound different as he moves across the toms, and there is a little gap to get to his snare.
 
His playing was never meant to play over the music, but to support it, as pop, and his playing fit their needs and the results of it all speak for themselves.
 
I always liked his television work for kids, as well, and he was and is an entertaining guy.
 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/05 12:29:47 (permalink)
The Beatles did ok, ya? 

 
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Re: Ringo 2015/09/05 12:41:58 (permalink)
One biography suggested that Ringo got the job because he was already playing in an established band, had local name-recognition and contacts for gigs. He was also a little older than the others and must have seemed like the cool guy you'd want in your band.
 
I had a similar experience in my first band. We brought in our singer because he was already in an established band, had local name-recognition and contacts for gigs. He was also a little older than us and had dropped out of high school and rode a motorcycle. Most important, he owned a PA. Unlike Ringo, though, he was a terrible singer and an egocentric jerk.


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Re: Ringo 2015/09/05 13:01:00 (permalink)
What do you call a drummer with no sticks?
 
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