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Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
Hey all, I'm in Melodyne (Sonar X3) - and I just made a really small pitch adjustment to one single note (about +9 cents), and now that note sounds really weird and robotic, and not at all like the other ones. And I just made very small pitch adjustment. What's worse, when I do an Undo and return to the original pitch I sang, the robotic weird tone did not go away. Is there a setting or something I missed?
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 16:20:41
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Hi. Does it sound like that if you render the effect? And what buffer size do you use? Celemony recommends minimum 1024. Best of luck.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 19:02:49
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I thought I changed the buffer from 256 to 1024 but it didn't seem to help so I might have changed it in the right place. I changed it in Edit --> Prefs --> Audio --> Sync and Caching --> File System Is there another place I should change it in?
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 19:47:36
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Also, I'm using ASIO drivers on a Tascam US600. So all the Latency settings at Edit -> Prefs -> Audio -> Device Settings are grayed out and I can't select them. I did set my Latency for "Lowest" in the Tascam's control panel, but that didn't seem to help at all.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 21:44:10
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I thought I changed the buffer from 256 to 1024 but it didn't seem to help so I might have changed it in the right place. I changed it in Edit --> Prefs --> Audio --> Sync and Caching --> File System When Melodyne recommends a buffer size of 1024 it refers to your audio interface driver buffers not the one's you have changed (they're your disk read/write buffers.) I'm not sure why your interface buffer options are greyed out. In any case, I've successfully edited many clips at lower buffer sizes than 1024, even though Melodyne will give you the message to change it.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 22:19:27
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I thought I read somewhere (can't remember where...) that if you are using ASIO mode that your latency setting will be grayed out like mine are, but I don't know if that's true because I can't remember where that is. I have the very latest drivers for my Interface, too. Wish I could figure this out :) will keep trying ... may have to place another call to CW support on Tuesday.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/06 22:25:53
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Is there a box anywhere that has ASIO Panel written on it? That should get you in to your interface's driver options. The Buffer Size slider thingy might be greyed out but you should still be able to access your interface's buffer settings through the ASIO Panel.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/07 05:09:02
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Yeah, the button with ASIO Panel on it takes me to my TASCAM US600 control panel. In there the only thing marked Latency is a dropdown menu called "Audio Performance" and it is already set to "Lowest Latency".
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/07 05:57:28
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I would recommend that you increase the buffer to medium or high, during Melodyne editing. Best of luck.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/07 09:56:42
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Tried that this morning - moved the Latency in my Tascam control panel to "High Latency" - still had no effect on the strange robotic sound of that one note in my Melodyne clip.
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/07 23:08:56
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It's possible that Melodyne detected that note an octave lower than it actually is. Below is an excerpt from the following URL: http://helpcenter.celemony.com/editor2/en/singletrack_tour_02_ede.html Depending upon the material, it can be necessary to edit the detection manually and reassign detected notes. This applies in particular to polyphonic material, in which overtones are sometimes interpreted as independent notes, and not all the notes actually played are invariably displayed. With melodic material, a note may occasionally be confused with the same note an octave higher or lower. Before editing such material, you need to reassign these notes to their correct pitches; otherwise tonal artifacts could be produced when the material comes to be edited. The aim is to ensure that the notes you see in Melodyne correspond as closely as possible to the notes actually played. HTH
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/08 14:27:06
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I always copy the vocal track that I intend to edit with melodyne to another track, because undo doesn't always undo. Just a thought. And I haven't changed my buffers since I was having a crash problem, melodyne's performance hasn't suffered, I usually get excellent results. BTW, you got really good ears to hear 9cents. Congrats!
post edited by joyof60 - 2015/09/08 14:36:48
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Re: Melodyne - sounds very strange with even just one note
2015/09/08 17:32:20
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Try to activate "Show intended notes" from the "view" menu of the Melodyne window. Then move the blob an octave higher/lower to match the correct octave. Otherwise the formants will be interpreted wrong and it will sound like you described. Moving the blobs without the activation will make it even worse... Edit: Forgot to point out that you have to use the "Detection Mode" (the arrow with +-)
post edited by vdd - 2015/09/08 17:54:03
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