Miroslav Philharmonik with Sonar Plat x 64

I've been trying to figure this out over at IK multimedia's site without much success, so let me try here:
 
Q: Does anyone know if Miroslav Philharmonik works with Sonar Plat x64?
 
It's obviously a 32 bit program and known to have problems on a 64 bit OS (as far as I can understand). In Sampletank the MP instruments are by far my favorites, and so I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hazzle of attempting an install. So maybe more precisely, for those who've tried to make the two system inter-operate:
 
1) Is there a VST as part of MP that works with Sonar Plat on x64 and can be installed on a 64 bit OS?
2) How about just importing the instruments/samples into SampleTank 3.5. Does that work, or is functionality missing.
 
Thanks in advance for any guidance!
 
Allan

Mesh
... Sample 3 SE is the cheapest way (without of getting the full version) to import all your legacy samples/instruments.  

Mesh, I think you missed the fact he already has Sampletank 3 Full. (It's in his sig).
 
To the OP -- With Sampletank 3.5, you can import your older 2.xx libraries just fine, so that would be the way to go. 

JonD

Mesh
... Sample 3 SE is the cheapest way (without of getting the full version) to import all your legacy samples/instruments.  

Mesh, I think you missed the fact he already has Sampletank 3 Full. (It's in his sig).
 
To the OP -- With Sampletank 3.5, you can import your older 2.xx libraries just fine, so that would be the way to go. 

I sure did miss that....
 
OP, do what JonD and BD said....they know what they're talking about.

Thanks for all the good advice. That sounds very straightforward. I'm hoping that Microslav Phil can help me avoid an impending EWHO GAS attack!
 
Thanks again

BassDaddy
Why would you use jbridge when you can use SampleTank3's import feature and have full 64bit function?

Well I've read here by bitflipper (IIRC) that 2.x converted libraries to 3.5 don't always end up sounding the same. It's one of the reasons I never converted them.
 
TBH I've yet to use my native ST3 libs as my EW subscription, OTS libs and NI's K10U pretty much cover my needs.  

As a small thank-you, I thought I'd summarize my experience: Nominal cost right now, download easy. A total of  1 hour from start to instruments installed in ST 3.
 
The instruments, as imported, are all thin and lifeless. They compare poorly to the Miroslav instruments included in ST3. I found no key-switched instruments so everything "is one at a time". All instruments are "dry", which probably explains the flat sound somewhat. Trying to replicate the EQ and other settings from ST 3 improved things a bit. I'll fiddle a bit longer, but I'm probably going to just accept that the Miroslav isn't nearly as playable as the ST3 variants (to me at least).
 
 
 
 

I guess I never heard the original Miroslav, so I have no real comparison, only the "reprogrammed Miroslav optimized for ST 3" included in ST3. In view of the comments over at IK multimedia I thought my experience was "as expected", as IK makes it clear that it's a legacy instrument and essentially unsupported.
 
Something interesting: After installing Windows updates yesterday I rebooted, and the MP instruments are now much better "as is". They are far richer than "thin and lifeless" and it's now clear that they are related to the ST 3 variants. A wild guess would be that the import process somehow left my Sampletank in a funny state and that a reboot cleared that.
 
 
 

Nigel - I did not. I'm on ST 3.5 but in view of the complaints I read here, e.g. cclarry, who tried 3.6 and lost settings, I have not upgraded. ST 3.6 appears primarily focused on pushing their new custom shop.
 
I'm going to make my own instruments with FX and engine settings matching what's in ST 3 for similar instruments and see how that comes out. My concern about Miroslav was that it was going to take a lot of experimentation based on being unsupported, and so I'll have to figure out pretty quickly if it's worth it, or if I should switch to a more modern set of samples. I'm looking at EWQL HO and possibly some Kontakt package should NI decide to page all their new symphonic stuff in a package at a reasonable price. I'm still writing, so I don't need to make final decision for a few months.
 
I have no concern about the $35 I paid for MP, only the time it will take to get it working well.
 
 
 
 

Bajan Blue
of course with EWQL you can do the subscription thing for about $25 a month I think, which gives you access to all their libraries.
Cheers
Nigel
 

All but the Platinum stuff Nigel (I hear that may change, but at a higher price).

Bajan Blue
Ok I thought it was now everything but happy to stand corrected!

And maybe I'm wrong too.

BassDaddy
Why would you use jbridge when you can use SampleTank3's import feature and have full 64bit function?

Some of us did not buy into the ST3 doo da thus  jbridge

If it wasn't for iLok, I would have jumped on EWQL a while ago. It's probably time to accept that iLok is unavoidable and give the EWQL Gold subscription a spin.
 
Nigel - Thanks for all the good information and advice