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cheap but good studio monitors
I am looking for some studio monitors on a budget. any suggestions.SO for I thought about the Mackie CR 4 and the Mackie MR5 MK3. I want to get a decent mix for cheap. I have the M-Audio as 30 speakers and the left one is very silent now so I need to replace soon.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/21 11:46:23
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There are plenty of acceptable monitors out there for < $500 a pair. Four pieces of advice: 1. don't buy anything with less than a 6.5" woofer 2. get some solid speaker stands 3, set aside $50 for a good book on acoustics before investing heavily in speakers 4. definitely don't buy a subwoofer until after step #3
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/26 15:53:45
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I have a pair of Mackie MR5 MKII. I like them a lot better than the old M-Audio I used before that. They're not high-end but they're solid and reasonably reliable. Speaker stands do make a difference. Room treatment too - a lot. I don't feel the need to replace the Mackies but I certainly want to invest more into room treatment in the foreseeable future. The part I've already done has made quite a difference. So, yeah - Mackies are a good choice. Maybe just not the little CR though.
post edited by Rain - 2015/09/26 16:03:26
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 00:23:38
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Don't make my mistake and buy monitors that have a real rubbish response below 60Hz. bitflipper 3, set aside $50 for a good book on acoustics before investing heavily in speakers
It is this that has stopped me from even bothering with setting up my Tannoy Reveals (which are crap anyway). Placing speakers and treating a room is an absolute nightmare in my opinion... If I had the money then I'd get a "pro" in to set up my studio for me.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 00:38:43
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Equator Audio D5, $400 the pair, incredible sound (especially its sweet sweet mids), can't go wrong really. You'd want to add a sub if you need freqs below 50Hz, otherwise you could splash out a bit more and get the D8's for $750 the pair. I haven't come across a genre of music that isn't an absolute pleasure to listen to on these (especially paired with ARC2). I have mine in a completely untreated room, on a shelf near the corner. Possibly the worst setup imaginable, but with ARC2 enabled music sounds more balanced, focused and open than many expensive audiophile systems I've heard.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 04:00:41
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synkrotron It is this that has stopped me from even bothering with setting up my Tannoy Reveals (which are crap anyway).
I like mine...
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 04:34:21
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jamesg1213 I like mine...
Yeah, I like the look of mine... and even the sound, but I was gutted when I discovered that the response drops off quite badly below 60Hz. I've given them to my son now and he's using them for his computer monitors. He likes them too
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 07:41:29
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jamesg1213 I like mine...
Yeah, I like the look of mine... and even the sound, but I was gutted when I discovered that the response drops off quite badly below 60Hz. I've given them to my son now and he's using them for his computer monitors. He likes them too 
I hate everything below 60Hz, anyway.... You could even make that 80. Music died when it started hiding in the basement. :P
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 10:12:32
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Rain I hate everything below 60Hz, anyway.... You could even make that 80.
A very good point Rain
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 11:31:05
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/09/27 15:56:50
" I hate everything below 60Hz, anyway...." You only have 3 strings on your bass guitar, Rain?
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 11:52:22
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bitflipper "I hate everything below 60Hz, anyway...." You only have 3 strings on your bass guitar, Rain? 
He just doesn't play below the 12th fret on his low E string.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 12:25:41
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I love sub-bass. But there's a time and a place for it. If used appropriately and mixed well it can have a deep psychological effect on you (especially if you're baked  ). There's something about the experience of "feeling" pitch that takes you into a dream world (especially if you're baked  ).
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 15:47:57
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sharke I love sub-bass. But there's a time and a place for it. If used appropriately and mixed well it can have a deep psychological effect on you (especially if you're baked ). There's something about the experience of "feeling" pitch that takes you into a dream world (especially if you're baked ).
In all honestly, I am not against it - in theory. If used sparingly, to spice things up, I guess it can be a great tool. The problem seems to be that nowadays, a lot of mixes just seem to want to have every instrument systematically using as wide a spectrum as possible. In the end, those low frequency often don't enhance but compete with the actual music. It's like that constant woooooomph pushing against you tympanum - it just levels everything, so nothing really stand out. I like music with holes and gaps in it - room for the listener.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 15:52:30
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My problem with a lot of today's mixes is too many stereo instruments jumping out at you at maximum stereo width. Makes you feel like you're suffocating in the middle of it instead of enjoying at a respectful distance, especially on headphones.
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Re: cheap but good studio monitors
2015/09/27 17:39:43
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sharke My problem with a lot of today's mixes is too many stereo instruments jumping out at you at maximum stereo width. Makes you feel like you're suffocating in the middle of it instead of enjoying at a respectful distance, especially on headphones.
That too, indeed. Goes back to a very simple principle, which is actually pretty universal in its application - just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should do it.
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