Another documentary recommendation

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Watched it two weeks ago.
 
 

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Cool! Other Arhoolie fans! I've picked up a number of terrific CDs from him. Thank you, Chris!

'Mr Blue Sky' about ELO's 'G. Lynn' was a cool music doc. Musician Producer, down to earth multi-instrumentalist with a clear vision of his musical ideas.

Hi,
 
The David Bowie documentary on "Behind the Music" is good too.
 
The BBC documentary on "Krautrock" is also excellent, but several hours long and quite detailed ... but for some reason the last hour is mangled badly and that is the hour that has David Bowie discussing it, and mentioning its influence on him.
 
Most rock documentaries do not discuss the other things that David studies, and it is acting, and theater and mime, and in many ways, the performance side of these things in experimental theater, is far more advanced in work, than most rock music is, and he seems to be an avid listener of a lot of different, cultural and odd things ... on purpose ... to get better ideas for what he does. But he is honest enough to credit them when it is there, and he does well in the "krautrock" special, though he knows who the real stars are.
 
He is also courageous ... no American (or Cakewalk'an) would ever tackle Kurt Weill and Bertold Brecht ... and David did, and sounded well, though not great in my book, because it was not in a theatrical environment per se, and its quality suffered a bit because of it, but otherwise good, and sort of a capella all the way. you learn a lot from doing different things, but for many folks, "different" means a different effect on their guitar only. not for David!

If the Forum Monkeys ever had a documentary it would be VERY short.
 
A monkey flinging p..........      never mind.

S.L.I.P.
A Band Called Death:
 
"Before Bad Brains, the Sex Pistols or even the Ramones, there was a band called Death.
Punk before punk existed, three teenage brothers in the early '70s formed a band in their spare bedroom, began playing a few local gigs and even pressed a single in the hopes of getting signed. But this was the era of Motown and emerging disco. Record companies found Death’s music— and band name—too intimidating, and the group were never given a fair shot, disbanding before they even completed one album. Equal parts electrifying rockumentary and epic family love story, A Band Called Death chronicles the incredible fairy-tale journey of what happened almost three decades later, when a dusty 1974 demo tape made its way out of the attic and found an audience several generations younger. Playing music impossibly ahead of its time, Death is now being credited as the first black punk band (hell...the first punk band!), and are finally receiving their long overdue recognition as true rock pioneers."

Yeah, we watched that about 4 or 5 months ago.

Moshkito

jamesg1213

Moshkito
 
no American (or Cakewalk'an) would ever tackle Kurt Weill and Bertold Brecht ..

Yes they would. A LOT of Tom Waits work is influenced by Weill. The album 'The Black Rider' is a theatrical collaboration between Waits, William Burroughs and director Robert Wilson, very much in the style of Brecht and Weill. Check it out, it's JUST the kind of thing you're always berating us for not knowing anything about....

My bad ... I missed the smiley! But the discussion of it, is crazy, and difficult. It wasn't meant to say that you guys are stupid (you all obviously are NOT!!!), but the discussions and comments, are almost always so far removed from other arts and disciplines, that when someone mentions it, like I do, it's like ... what? ... and then one person makes a comment like you ... in the middle of 1568 posts by all others.
 
My point is that these arts exist ... and they are there. But American life is tough because of the media controls, and the top ten lists, and consequently, the discussion of something completely different is rarely seen, or mentioned ... until one day ... the mouse shows up!

Pedro,
 
You do know that James lives in Scotland, not America, right?

Moshkito

jamesg1213

Moshkito
 
no American (or Cakewalk'an) would ever tackle Kurt Weill and Bertold Brecht ..

Yes they would. A LOT of Tom Waits work is influenced by Weill. The album 'The Black Rider' is a theatrical collaboration between Waits, William Burroughs and director Robert Wilson, very much in the style of Brecht and Weill. Check it out, it's JUST the kind of thing you're always berating us for not knowing anything about....

My bad ... I missed the smiley! But the discussion of it, is crazy, and difficult. It wasn't meant to say that you guys are stupid (you all obviously are NOT!!!), but the discussions and comments, are almost always so far removed from other arts and disciplines, that when someone mentions it, like I do, it's like ... what? ... and then one person makes a comment like you ... in the middle of 1568 posts by all others.
 
My point is that these arts exist ... and they are there. But American life is tough because of the media controls, and the top ten lists, and consequently, the discussion of something completely different is rarely seen, or mentioned ... until one day ... the mouse shows up!

 
So...you going to check out 'The Black Rider' by Tom Waits then? I have it on CD.

bapu

Moshkito

jamesg1213

Moshkito
 
no American (or Cakewalk'an) would ever tackle Kurt Weill and Bertold Brecht ..

Yes they would. A LOT of Tom Waits work is influenced by Weill. The album 'The Black Rider' is a theatrical collaboration between Waits, William Burroughs and director Robert Wilson, very much in the style of Brecht and Weill. Check it out, it's JUST the kind of thing you're always berating us for not knowing anything about....

My bad ... I missed the smiley! But the discussion of it, is crazy, and difficult. It wasn't meant to say that you guys are stupid (you all obviously are NOT!!!), but the discussions and comments, are almost always so far removed from other arts and disciplines, that when someone mentions it, like I do, it's like ... what? ... and then one person makes a comment like you ... in the middle of 1568 posts by all others.
 
My point is that these arts exist ... and they are there. But American life is tough because of the media controls, and the top ten lists, and consequently, the discussion of something completely different is rarely seen, or mentioned ... until one day ... the mouse shows up!

Pedro,
 
You do know that James lives in Scotland, not America, right?

I do?
 
Now things are starting to make sense....

Moshkito
 
 
 
In general, for me, I would like to see more musicians take on poetry, and more poets take on music ...

 
Well, if you don't consider this the epitome of both, I can't help you;
 

jamesg1213

Moshkito 
 
In general, for me, I would like to see more musicians take on poetry, and more poets take on music ...

 
Well, if you don't consider this the epitome of both, I can't help you;
 

I'll catch this at home .. at work right now.
 
The music work I am trying to do right now, is my own poetry, btw ... and the visuals, I have not decided as yet, since what I do is of a visual nature that the music helps create and define, thus, imagery for me, would have to be very specific, and this is not as easy as that ... given my Lean/Kubrick/Gilliam/Brook style of imagery.
 
Werner Herzog, in the earlier days, used a lot of poetry on his works, though one would never be able to tell, unless you knew it. Wim Wenders used a lot of stuff on "Until the End of the World" ... which is not a great film, but makes me wonder if should have been a video for MTV of various musics and bands. The only other director that used poetry face on, and other literary works, was Nicholas Roeg, and "performance" is by far, one of the most literary of all films ... but too visually artistic for anyone to make sense of it ... and get lost along the way! A visual/poetry treat all the way through.

Hey James, you do realize that Mosh lives in Pedro-land, right? 

"This Ain't No Mouse Music", sounds like a winner, Bit, I’ll have to add it to my Netflix list.
 
I also enjoyed “Muscle Shoals” on Netflix, about the early history of Fame studios down in Alabama.
 
I recently watched and HIGHLY recommend for any recording musician or even anyone who just listens to or buys music, to check out the music documentary “Artifact” on Netflix.  It’s a really interesting, straight forward fact checking look at the changes and current state of the music industry, and the stuff the major labels have been getting away with.
 
Make sure to check out the industry breakdown infographics starting at about 28 minutes in, and don’t miss the very last minute of the documentary to see what finally transpires!  AMAZING!!!
 
Check it out if you can, shocking stuff!
 
Have a good one!
Bob
 

bapu
If the Forum Monkeys ever had a documentary it would be VERY short.
 
A monkey flinging p..........      never mind.

No toothpaste, either?

bitflipper
Kamikaze, I couldn't find anything about a Geoff Lynn documentary. Where'd you find it?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2440214/
 
I'm not sure how posting this links fits in with the forum policies. So apologies if it oversteps a mark.
https://yts.to/movie/mr-b...of-jeff-lynne-elo-2012