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Gary McCoy
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2015/10/05 14:03:54 (permalink)

This one has me stumped

I recently had a total hard drive failure and had to re-install Sonar Platinum (and everything else).  Fortunately, my project files were on another drive and are okay.
 
Here is the problem.  I opened an old project that contains a bunch of V-Vocal clips on the lead vocal track.  Since there is no V-Vocal in the new Sonar, these clips are silent.  In those sections of the track where there is no V-Vocal clip, the audio plays just fine.  I can see that the waveform is there under the V-Vocal clip, but I cannot figure how to remove the V-Vocal clip to get at it.
 
I suppose I could install my old Sonar 8, for which I still have the disc, call up the project, remove the clips and save.  I had hoped there might be an easier way.
 
Any ideas? 
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    Beepster
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    Re: This one has me stumped 2015/10/05 14:28:25 (permalink)
    If you have any version of Sonar that came with V-Vocal (which you do if you own 8) then you should be able to just do a custom/advanced install of that old version, only install V-Vocal and then it will show up in Platinum.
     
    Then, hopefully, SPlat will be able to read the clips again.
     
    HOWEVER... if that doesn't work then yeah... install 8.5 (or whatever the project was last modified in), open the project and bounce the V-V clip(s) so you can import them into your SPlat project.
     
    Also maybe take a look in the Audio folder of the project to see if the original/unedited wave is there. I don't know if VV retains the original on active VV edits.
     
    BTW... when doing stuff like this (VV, Melodyne, Audiosnap, VocalSync, etc) best to bounce the work so it doesn't get borked like this as time moves on.
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    Re: This one has me stumped 2015/10/05 14:57:57 (permalink)
    I forget if saving the project as a bundle strips off region effects? It would not render them, but remove them if it does.

    FWIW, VV requires a basic installation of the actual SONAR program that included it to show up in future versions. You cannot just custom install VV.

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    Re: This one has me stumped 2015/10/05 15:13:08 (permalink)
    mettelus
    FWIW, VV requires a basic installation of the actual SONAR program that included it to show up in future versions. You cannot just custom install VV.



    OP... please modify any of my advice to take this into account (so do a full install of whatever you have... the last version of Sonar that included VV was X2).
     
    I figured it could be installed separately like other plugs from past version but I've never don it so I'll defer to mett's knowledge.
     
    Cheers.
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    Re: This one has me stumped 2015/10/05 16:03:55 (permalink)
    Right, you can not have VV clips in a bundle file. 

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    Re: This one has me stumped 2015/10/05 17:16:07 (permalink)
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    mettelus
    FWIW, VV requires a basic installation of the actual SONAR program that included it to show up in future versions. You cannot just custom install VV.



    OP... please modify any of my advice to take this into account (so do a full install of whatever you have... the last version of Sonar that included VV was X2).
     
    I figured it could be installed separately like other plugs from past version but I've never don it so I'll defer to mett's knowledge.
     
    Cheers.

    I was able to add just VV to a Platinum installation using the Custom option of the X2 installer.

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