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2015/10/08 15:44:45 (permalink)

Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use?

Today ...Cakewalk tech support walked me through a problem...
SONAR would attempt to launch ...then freeze until task was ended.
deleted Avast antivirus ...problem went away too
Avast Antivirus seems to be a problem with ASIO in general...

What antivirus do you use?
 
 

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:02:04 (permalink)
If you are on Windows 7 use Microsoft Security Essentials. It's less intrusive than Avast.
 
I wouldn't trust it for full on intertube surfing though. I just use it as a precaution on my "almost ALWAYS offline DAW" when I need to download audio related stuff.
 
So no donkey porn.
 
Also even MSE will interfere with Sonar a bit so I disable it (while disconnected from the internet) if I notice my projects lagging. Others usually just add their audio stuff to their AV whitelist though but I don't whitelist anything.
 
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//MSE was recommended to me by Cakewalk for Win7 back in the X1 days
///uses Avast on my "donkey porn" viewing system
//does not watch donkey porn
/or any porn... but you get the point
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:26:29 (permalink)
I use Avast with no issues of Sonar crashing at all.
 


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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:29:16 (permalink)
I used Avast for years no issues, once I upgraded to Win10 it just would not register or work, neither would it allow MSE to work so it went...no problems since. a shame as it was prob the best of the free AV suites

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:29:29 (permalink)
Try AVG.

The main issue is probably not AVAST itself but the way it is configured. Most antivirus software needs to be configured to exclude Sonar processes and the folders Sonar writes to.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:34:35 (permalink)
I use Norton that comes free with my internet provider subscription with absolutely no issues.  Rock solid performance on SPlat I.  I know people seem to have had issues in the past with Norton but it behaves on my DAW.  Don't even notice that it is there.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 16:41:29 (permalink)
I've been running Kaspersky for years after parting ways with Trend Micro. Haven't noticed any issues yet, but I haven't been looking. FWIW, I also run Adguard. v5.10 was working OK, but I just installed the v6 beta. So far, so good.
 
It was difficult for me for some time to trust Russian software, but both Kaspersky and Adguard have earned my trust.
 
Also, FWIW, I (almost) NEVER run FREE software on my PC. I'll try demos and shareware. The "almost" caveat is for the occasional free plugin from a vendor I've purchased other plugins from. That said, I've yet to come to rely on a freebie.
 
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 17:07:25 (permalink)
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I've been running Kaspersky for years after parting ways with Trend Micro. Haven't noticed any issues yet, but I haven't been looking. FWIW, I also run Adguard. v5.10 was working OK, but I just installed the v6 beta. So far, so good.
 
It was difficult for me for some time to trust Russian software, but both Kaspersky and Adguard have earned my trust.
 
Also, FWIW, I (almost) NEVER run FREE software on my PC. I'll try demos and shareware. The "almost" caveat is for the occasional free plugin from a vendor I've purchased other plugins from. That said, I've yet to come to rely on a freebie.
 
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generally ok advice but there are some great free plugs such as the Bootsy ones, LePou amp sims etc. Also, things like MuseScore, Audacity, Media Monkey, VLC player, CCleaner show that free doesn't always mean shoddy or buggy.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 17:12:23 (permalink)
I'm not using Platinum (yet...though I will be soon)...using X3 with Avast and have never had any issues that I'm aware of.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 17:45:48 (permalink)
mgh
generally ok advice but there are some great free plugs such as the Bootsy ones, LePou amp sims etc. Also, things like MuseScore, Audacity, Media Monkey, VLC player, CCleaner show that free doesn't always mean shoddy or buggy.



For antivirus it is OK advice, I pay for mine.
CC Cleaner should not be on this list, at least for the Windows 10 registry. It takes 6 months to a year for that product to settle under a new OS, in the meantime people run it and then later wonder why their system is becoming "odd". The reg cleaner should only be run as a last resort IMHO... Cue now a flood of "I haven't had any troubles with it"...
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/10/08 17:55:40

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 18:27:16 (permalink)
Avast starting causing issues for me a while ago. Not only my DAW but my wife's work laptop. I nuked Avast and after significant research went with Webroot Secure Anywhere. http://www.webroot.com/
 
Much lighter system load. So far, it's working well.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 21:08:23 (permalink)
I have built/upgraded/repaired close to 200 hundred computers over the last couple of years or so, and I always load them, and any of mine, with Avast - no issues to date, other than a single time where Avast had interfered with a download of one of the Sonar updates.
 
I have subsequently added folders related to running Sonar to the do not scan list in Avast, and have had zero issues since then, just leaving Avast running while I do whatever is needed in Sonar.
 
None of the other folks I loaded up Avast with has indicated any issues either, with Avast.
 
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 21:15:20 (permalink)
Nothing on my DAW. I suspect oddities I will take it offline and give it a good cleaning.
This keeps it lean and mean.
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/08 21:28:03 (permalink)
Sometimes uninstall and reinstall (to latest) works.. as with all software that gets upgraded periodically... Sometimes the upgrades screw up.
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/09 23:39:25 (permalink)
Many Thanks to you all for these comments... Avast ran fine before I paid for it.
It's hard for me to stay on top of all studio technical information ...however, I monitor every aspect of the production machines ...this issue came about when I upgraded form free to paid ...I see good reasons why I had immediate problems in all three desktops....

Nothing had to be adjusted in the free version, other than a few minor settings ...the paid version can be configured in great detail ...again it's easy to see where it got a bit out of hand

I mention it as a potential problem with SONAR because the customer service tech stated there were "known" issues with the two co-existing on same workstation.....

There's a lot of great information here from all of you ... I hope the admins see this and make it an archive topic.... Thanks Heavens there's so many folks in this thread who are familiar and comfortably conversant with this issue!!

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 05:20:44 (permalink)
Currently running the free Microsoft Security Essentials after getting BSOD when upgrading via CC and using iObit Ultimate blah blah. As Doctor says above, excluding Cakewalk is a good idea and I've not had one BSOD since using MSE.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 05:32:25 (permalink)
Nothing on the DAW.
DAW goes online when I need to (a) download vendor updates or (b) reg software (if there offline reg is cumbersome). 
 
Any low price/freebie-type stuff goes via the laptop, parsed with BitDefender, then copied to the DAW.
 

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 05:53:10 (permalink)
never looked back leaving mcafee suite...but I feel un safe since it had a pretty good firewall
so any suggestions for firewall (win 10)?

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 10:22:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby polyphonix 2015/10/11 11:43:23
Sorry to be controversial but anti-virus software is mostly ineffective these days. The best thing you can do is to ensure your key components are kept up to date, all the time - your browser, your operating system, Java, and Flash are the 4 big ones. The second best thing you can do is run with User Account Control ON at all times, which can often stop a virus in its tracks even if you do accidentally download it. Beyond that, the built-in Windows software such as Defender is good enough and less intrusive than 3rd party software.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 10:27:45 (permalink)
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I use Avast with no issues of Sonar crashing at all. 


Same here. I've been using Avast for years ongoing with the latest version of Sonar available. No issues.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 10:28:34 (permalink)
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Many Thanks to you all for these comments... Avast ran fine before I paid for it.



 
The "paid for it" version is bloatware and will really slow a pc down - the internet security (oxymoron) will virtually kill your machine.
 
Just run the good old free one, generally behave yourself in the interplayground and you should be "back to normal"
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/10 11:32:56 (permalink)
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Nothing on my DAW. I suspect oddities I will take it offline and give it a good cleaning.
This keeps it lean and mean.




This.  You can go to websites that do online scanning.  Then run Malwarebytes Anti-Malware at least once a week.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 01:47:26 (permalink)
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Today ...Cakewalk tech support walked me through a problem...
SONAR would attempt to launch ...then freeze until task was ended.
deleted Avast antivirus ...problem went away too
Avast Antivirus seems to be a problem with ASIO in general...

What antivirus do you use?
 
 


I used to love Avast - used it for 10 years.  But it has become bloated lately, and they are becoming very agressive with marketing.  Someone recommended ESET NOD32, and I'm very happy with it.  You have to pay for it, but it is slim, with a light footprint, and very configurable.  The price isn't too bad - $60 for 2 years.  I have been very happy with it.  Give it a try,
 
http://www.eset.com/us/products/nod32-antivirus/

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 01:56:47 (permalink)
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Today ...Cakewalk tech support walked me through a problem...
SONAR would attempt to launch ...then freeze until task was ended.
deleted Avast antivirus ...problem went away too
Avast Antivirus seems to be a problem with ASIO in general...

What antivirus do you use?
 
 



 Avast's problem these days is that they are offering this to try to get you to buy their product:
 

 
 
When what I'm willing to pay for is this:
 

 
To be fair, it's not just Avast.  Most of the major AV companies are taking the same approach.  That's why I went with ESET.  They got it right!
 
 

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 04:36:18 (permalink)
I use ESET Smart Security never have had an issue with Sonar.
My 2nd choice would be Kasperky.
If my PC was never (even for email)/ or rarely on the Internet I might use AVG free version.
I don't trust Avast - too many of my customers have had issues with AVAST.
 
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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 11:18:31 (permalink)
If you have more than two computers on your network, you may want to use an external security appliance.
I use a Sonicwall firewall with a subscription to Anti-Virus, Malware, and intrusion protection installed on the device.
No need to run ANY protection software on any of the machines on my network (6 including DAW).
A little pricey up front (used TZ-205 $200-$300), and the annual subscription runs $170. But, it is protecting every device on the network, so 170/6 isn't that bad. Been using Sonicwalls for about 15 years, NEVER been infected.
 
 

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 11:46:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SF_Green 2015/10/11 14:25:59
As a software developer, I've been battling "security" software for many years. It's not that the stuff doesn't work (sometimes it does), it's that the default settings are too aggressive, too intrusive. The vendor would rather have it interfere with legitimate processes than to miss an evil one.
 
They key is turning off "real time protection" or whatever your antivirus vendor calls its TSR component, and whitelisting every folder and executable that you know will never be infected. Some of these products actually want to scan wave files! Why? Because the file extension may have been intentionally changed to disguise the true nature of some malware. Any file can carry a rootkit. But the likelihood of your Kontakt libraries being infected is slim to none.


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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 14:18:38 (permalink)
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As a software developer, I've been battling "security" software for many years. It's not that the stuff doesn't work (sometimes it does), it's that the default settings are too aggressive, too intrusive. The vendor would rather have it interfere with legitimate processes than to miss an evil one.
 
They key is turning off "real time protection" or whatever your antivirus vendor calls its TSR component, and whitelisting every folder and executable that you know will never be infected. Some of these products actually want to scan wave files! Why? Because the file extension may have been intentionally changed to disguise the true nature of some malware. Any file can carry a rootkit. But the likelihood of your Kontakt libraries being infected is slim to none.




That's one of the nice things about ESET.  I have .wav, .m4a, .mp3, and .nk(everything by NI here) excluded.

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 18:07:54 (permalink)
I use Norton 360 Premier.  Works Great and No Problems at all...

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Re: Avast Anti-virus Can Cause Problems with Platinum... What Do You Use? 2015/10/11 20:46:20 (permalink)
I use Avast,i just make sure Avast Sheilds are turned off for an hour or until I restart my computer and no problems at all.
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