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Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
Hi guys, my first post on here for many a year, I have been away from making music for a long time. My problem is this, and I really hope someone can help me as this is driving me nuts. I know this works as I did it before, I made a full album using MIDI on Producer 8, trouble is, I had a serious accident which as affected my memory as well as my concentration levels, ok here comes the question. I have a Yamaha PSR 6700 which is only good for using as a MIDI controller, everything worked fine until my old Vista computer died, I was using Producer 8 and I am sorry to lose it, I long since lost the disk and documentation, so it's gone. Not having a great deal of available cash, I bought replacement computer and was lucky enough to find my local music store had a copy of Sonar X1 Production Suite at a bargain price, I took a risk on the software, it may not have worked, but hey, it works perfectly, and has everything on it that I will ever need. I had to do a lot of research to get everything running as the new computer is 64 bit, but everything is working fine. I just don't know how to get the programme to recognise the Yamaha, I am using a Tascam US-144 Sound card, I managed to find a 64 bit patch on the Tascam site. Everything is working great, I just need to get the Yamaha onto the Midi devices list. Grateful for any help that you can give, if all else fails I guess I could buy one of those midi controller keyboards if needs be. Regards Trevor
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 11:47:16
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That audio I/F does not appear to have any MIDI I/O do you have another MIDI interface? Edit: My Bad the pictures I looked at did not show the MIDI I/O hence why I did not see it.
post edited by Wookiee - 2015/10/11 11:08:49
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 12:13:11
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 16:39:12
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The other keyboard I have is a Yamaha SY-85. I just need to get the program to recognise the keyboard, I did it previously in Producer 8, every ntutorial I have gone through starts off with' I assume that your controller has been assigned', mine hasn't. Like I said in my original post, i could always purchase a midi keyboard, but the set up woked so well for me, I would like to try and keep it as was. Found another problem, guitar rig doesn't work when I open it in a audio track, it's all there but as soon as I open it, all sound stops.
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 17:23:43
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litmusic I have a Yamaha PSR 6700 which is only good for using as a MIDI controller,
What you need is a way to send MIDI signals from the Yamaha keyboards to the PC. The way I would do this is grab yourself a USB to MIDI converter. The one I use is the Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI Interface which I bought locally for $AU57.00. You, however, should be able to find one on eBay. You can download the drivers from Roland's Website. http://www.roland.com/products/um-one_mk2/ I personally have found this unit to be quite reliable.
post edited by promidi - 2015/10/12 07:25:02
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 19:49:42
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/10 22:33:38
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Too many unknowns. What is the O/S and basic specs? X1 was a bit problematic and had a few updates. You should be sure that you have the final version of X1. I have no idea what the specs are on the keyboards, but make sure they are set to communicate via midi. This should be an easy solve once all the required information is known.
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 05:33:23
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Thanks John The O/S is windows 10 with 16 Gb of ram, 2.5 tb harddrives The program is the latest X1 and the Yamaha is set to send MIDI via Tascam US-144 which has the latest driver installed. I seem to remember having the EXACT same problem when I was using Producer 8 on Vista, I seem to remember someone on here pointing me in the right direction, but as I said previously, since my accident, my memory is problematic. Trevor
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 09:47:15
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Welcome back. If the Yamaha is plugged into the TASCAM with MIDI cables, you need to select the US-144 as both your MIDI input and output device, click P on the computer keyboard to bring up Preferences, and choose the TASCAM under MIDI>Devices. In a MIDI track, select the input to the US-144, choose a channel and patch. I use MIDI Omni for input from my old Yamaha PSR-GX 76. If you use General MIDI patches, the Yamaha will play them, but if you want to use a particular patch on the keyboard that isn't GM, you'll need to set the patch on the keyboard to hear that sound. Or, try to find the Instrument Definition for the 6700. Then you can choose all the keyboard's patches from within SONAR. You should be able to use software synthesizers, too, if you want some different and/or more realistic sounds than the PSR makes. Just Insert>Soft Synths, select the synth you want and set the MIDI track's output to that soft synth instead of the Yamaha. Click the track's Input Echo button to hear the soft synth. It's a little more involved than that, but those are the basics to playing any soft synth in SONAR.
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 11:00:11
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MarioD According to this the US-144 does have MIDI in/out but there are no Win 10 drivers for it: http://tascam.com/product/us-144/specifications/
This site has drivers up to and including Win 8: http://hardwaredata.org/index.php?driver=73008
What version of Windows do you have? Can you find the US-144 in the in preferences MIDI devices? If there is then be sure that they have a check mark on them, that activates those inputs/outputs.
Correct Mario - My Bad, the pictures I looked at did not show the MIDI I/O hence why I did not see it.
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 12:11:29
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The type of keyboard should be irrelevant, assuming the MIDI connection is over 5-pin DIN rather than USB. The problem is most likely with the interface driver. As a discontinued model, it's unlikely there will be a Win 10 driver for the US-144. Fortunately, there are several inexpensive alternatives. The least-expensive solution, as suggested above, would be picking up a dedicated MIDI interface. Both Roland and M-Audio offer one-port MIDI interfaces for $39. That's assuming the audio portion of the Tascam is performing OK, of course.
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 16:38:58
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Re: Trying to get an old Yamaha keyboard to control MIDI in Producer X1
2015/10/11 17:26:41
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As noted above, you can get a very cheap MIDI interface for your computer. A 2x2 should cost very little. Once you have the interface set up, you need to go into Preferences to make sure it's recognized/listed there. When you want to send MIDI to a Track, go into Track Inspector and ensure your interface is selected as the INPUT. It should say something like "MIDISPORT 2x2 IN A" depending on the name of your interface and which port on it you are using. It could have just one port, two, four, eight, or whatever. In that same place, you can click on that selection to pick the MIDI Channel. Just a note, you can get a very small keyboard from Akai or other makers that will have a USB interface and it will basically just be plug-and-play. Of course, these inexpensive ones have short keyboards, but that may work for you.
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