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2015/10/11 13:28:41 (permalink)

Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499)

Many good reviews coming in. It doesn't have the DT series amp control of the HD500X...so I'll stick with the pod for now myself, but it would seem to be at the Kemper or Fractal level in terms of features and amp modeling.
http://line6.com/helix/
 
post edited by clintmartin - 2015/10/12 17:47:37

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/12 16:59:57 (permalink)
Hi Clint,
 
I walked into the local Sam Ash last Friday... and saw a Helix on display (just taken out of the box).
Immediately grabbed it.  (Went there to look at 2016 Les Pauls)  
 
To my ears, the Amp/Cab models are significantly superior to the POD HD series (and all previous Line-6 products).
If you talking ultra accurate emulation of a given mic'd rig, I think the Kemper wins.
That said, the models in the Helix are good.
Once dialed in (to suit the guitar), you can almost feel the response of the cab.  Nice response to dynamics.
 
I just setup a simple patch for piezo pickup (to simulate acoustic guitar when playing live).
The patch consists of three items:
  • Impulse-Response of a mic'd Taylor acoustic guitar (frequency response)
  • Simple EQ (slight cut at 200Hz and slight boost to bottom/top
  • Chamber reverb (small amount)
On the Kemper, I profiled EQ preset 2 from an Avalon U5 DI (which sounds pretty good).
This simple patch on the Helix sounds amazing!  I'm literally laughing out loud while playing.
Just started programming the Helix... and figured this would be a simple patch to get acquainted. 
What I didn't know is that it would be so easy... and sound so good.
Lots of folks are doing the same type of thing with the Axe-FX (including Alex Lifeson).
This is something you can't do with the Kemper.
 
Helix build quality and user-interface are fantastic.
 
Objectively, I don't think Kemper and Axe-FX users are going to start mass liquidation.
I'm certainly not ready to sell the Kemper.
But Helix is much more than "POD HD mkII".  IMO, It can hold its own against the best of the best.
I want to program my own sounds, import some quality cab/mic IRs, and use Helix in rehearsal and live.
If that all goes exceptionally well... I'll think about selling the Kemper.
Early impressions?  There's enough to like about Helix to make it a keeper.
Even if it doesn't completely replace the Kemper/Axe-FX, Helix can serve as advanced EFX and/or advanced remote.
 
If you get a Helix, make sure you're running the latest firmware.

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/12 17:48:45 (permalink)
Great to hear from someone with hands on experience. I will be interested in the Helix if they add the DT functions that the HD500X do so well. I was never able to bond with FRFR, and with the DT25... the HD500X doesn't have to model the power amp, cab or mic. Just the pre amp.
I do think the Helix, Kemper or Fractal AX8 would be great for the studio. If I decide to get one for that...then all 3 are strong units to consider. I'm impressed that Line 6 has built a product that's even being compared to the big 2. Plus I think by early next year the Helix will be found for around $1000 pretty often. The Kemper and AX8 will keep their value. I'm pretty familiar with the HD500X and can get good tones from it, but it's not plug and play. It actually takes several little tweaks and tricks to get it to sound good at all, but I have patches I've made that are on par with S-Gear and Amplitube.
I have always felt that the combination of a HD500X with a DT series amp has been very underrated. I also think the HD500X is the best sub $1000 unit out there. I had the Amplifire and an Atomic CLR...and missed my HD500/DT50 so I bought a HD500X/DT25.
I'm not a cheerleader for any of these companies. I'm thrilled the competition is making all 3 better. All of us guitar players that have embraced modeling will reap the benefits of improved products. It's an exciting time! Thanks for your review.
post edited by clintmartin - 2015/10/12 19:24:14

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/13 11:36:25 (permalink)
Sat for a couple of minutes and programmed an old-school Marshall crunch sound (with a light drive pedal in front).
Response to dynamics, picking, and volume knob is great.
The UI makes it so quick/easy to experiment... 

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/13 12:16:40 (permalink)
best way yet,
that i've found,
to do what it is you want to do.....
of course, this requires a real tube amp,
which i assume everyone here still has one of......?
 
 
Pete Thorn, on Recording Guitar With Load Boxes and Impulse Responses
 
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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/13 12:57:20 (permalink)
I've got a 5150-III and a 2x12 with V30s (and numerous mic options for recording).
I don't want to drag that out to gigs... as I'm not the primary guitar player.
 
Been using a Kemper... and it works very well (live and studio).
Got the Helix... and thus far... it's working out quite well.
The piezo acoustic patch I created yesterday will be great for live use (both acoustic gigs and full band).
I'm not against traditional tube amps in any way.  
Sometimes it's convenient to just plug-in, dial up your sound, and start recording (no open cabs, no mics, etc).
I like to have both options... 

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/15 14:41:06 (permalink)
For anyone interested, here are links to a couple videos showing the Helix and how it sounds:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENZAqLmUEQ8
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt63tbx5Ncc
 

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/20 17:11:45 (permalink)
Jim, have you tested how it is as a audio interface?
 
I'm changing my Pod HD for a Helix as soon as its available "over here" :)
And I'm thinking of using it as a audio interface instead of my precious FW1884

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/20 19:49:38 (permalink)
Have not tested the Helix as an audio interface.
You use the Sends/Returns as Inputs/Outputs.

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/21 15:51:07 (permalink)
Yes, and as I understood you could use them (sends/return) as you want (reamping etc)
 
The reason I asked, was because Line6 bragged about its audio interface capabilities, but I'll take your word over theirs any day :)

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/24 18:24:36 (permalink)
Hi Jim,
 
Are you thinking of running the KPA into one of the Helix loops and then using it as a controller for the KPA as well?  That's what I'm planning on doing when mine arrives.
 
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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/26 23:36:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jayson 2015/10/29 22:23:36
jayson
Hi Jim, 
Are you thinking of running the KPA into one of the Helix loops and then using it as a controller for the KPA as well?  That's what I'm planning on doing when mine arrives.
 



Hi Jayson,
That's one possibility I was considering.  
Helix is built solid!  Kemper remote is $600 and isn't super flexible.

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/28 08:58:59 (permalink)
I love mine - that is all!

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Re: Line 6 Helix (MSRP $1499) 2015/10/28 17:00:11 (permalink)
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I love mine - that is all!


I have the HD500X. Would love to hear more about the Helix even if I can't afford one right now.

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