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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 09:49:33
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☄ Helpfulby monstaar888 2015/10/11 16:19:34
Unfortunately your link to the Cakewalk store did not work for me. Cakewalk has yet to update information regarding the mp3 activation at the store. Here is a link http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3273106 describing the two MP3 listings at the Cakewalk store. You want the the Cakewalk MP3 Activation.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 10:52:44
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monstaar888
I don't want to use LAME or any external encoder, I would like the Cakewalk one, if there is such a thing.
I find it absurd that it is not included by default in a $500+ program.
FWIW this was discussed extensively in a recent thread. Short form: Cakewalk needs to pay a licensing fee for the encoder, and this cost would need to be factored into the cost of the software. There are lots of free ways to convert to MP3 these days and besides, MP3 is waning as FLAC becomes more popular. So, MP3 conversion is something only some people need. Therefore, the people who want it can pay the $9.99, while people who don't need it don't have to pay for something they don't need.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 11:03:27
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☄ Helpfulby Paul P 2015/10/11 11:19:52
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FWIW this was discussed extensively in a recent thread. Short form: Cakewalk needs to pay a licensing fee for the encoder, and this cost would need to be factored into the cost of the software. For the love of God please not again ;)
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 11:42:00
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Doktor Avalanche
For the love of God please not again ;)
Hopefully the short form will be sufficient, the OP will think "Okay, that sounds reasonable," and harmony will rule throughout the land.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 12:16:42
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...harmony will rule throughout the land.
Where do you think you are? Harmony Central? To the OP: what's wrong with LAME? Is it because you want to avoid external software dependencies? If so, it's worth noting that the "official" encoder is also an external dependency. LAME does a fine job and has reliably done so for many years, and it's free.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 13:49:04
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:11:02
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For the love of God please not again ;)
Hopefully the short form will be sufficient, the OP will think "Okay, that sounds reasonable," and harmony will rule throughout the land.
OK, that sounds reasonable.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:12:11
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Strangely enough, I don't seem to be able to use the LAME encoder anymore in Sonar Platinum. I've had an external encoder set up for years and when I try to use it now, it says I need to unlock the Cakewalk MP3 license. So I followed the instructions and added a new external encoder that points to LAME or WinLAME and the same thing happens. Of course I can convert to MP3 outside of Cakewalk, but it is handier if I can do it from inside of Cakewalk.
post edited by daveny5 - 2015/10/11 16:22:12
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:14:27
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bitflipper
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...harmony will rule throughout the land.
Where do you think you are? Harmony Central?
To the OP: what's wrong with LAME? Is it because you want to avoid external software dependencies? If so, it's worth noting that the "official" encoder is also an external dependency. LAME does a fine job and has reliably done so for many years, and it's free.
LAME isn't working for this machine for some reason. I use Sound Forge to do it currently but I was hoping SONAR would have something internal. I was hesitant to use the MP3 Activation at the CW store because it didn't say specifically that SONAR Platinum was supported. Worst case scenario; if it doesn't work, I eat $9.99. I've pissed away ten dollars on worse things. :-)
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:15:59
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daveny5
Strangely enough, I don't seem to be able to use the LAME encoder anymore in Sonar Platinum. I've had an external encoder set up for years and when I try to use it now, it says I need to unlock the Cakewalk MP3 license. So I followed the instructions and added a new external encoder that points to LAME or WinLAME and the same thing happens. Of course I can convert to MP3 outside of Cakewalk, but it is handier if I can do it from inside of Cakewalk.
I am having the same problem. LAME has worked in other boxes and on other applications, just not this one. Hmm.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:18:43
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monstaar888
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For the love of God please not again ;)
Hopefully the short form will be sufficient, the OP will think "Okay, that sounds reasonable," and harmony will rule throughout the land.
OK, that sounds reasonable.
And harmony ruled throughout the land! I bet it's not every day you get an opportunity like that 
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 16:20:13
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monstaar888
daveny5
Strangely enough, I don't seem to be able to use the LAME encoder anymore in Sonar Platinum. I've had an external encoder set up for years and when I try to use it now, it says I need to unlock the Cakewalk MP3 license. So I followed the instructions and added a new external encoder that points to LAME or WinLAME and the same thing happens. Of course I can convert to MP3 outside of Cakewalk, but it is handier if I can do it from inside of Cakewalk.
I am having the same problem. LAME has worked in other boxes and on other applications, just not this one.
Hmm.
Ooops, seems to be a glitch in that harmony throughout the land thang. Hopefully someone from Cakewalk will respond, but I'll also check out later this evening, when I'm back on my music computer. I believe there was an update to the encoder, so maybe that's the issue.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 19:21:00
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☄ Helpfulby Majic 2015/12/14 07:01:00
He is referring to using an external encoder with the 3rd party LAME encoder executable. SONAR's integrated MP3 encoding should not be affected by that. We build and test the LAME encoder internally. Currently we have the latest version of LAME so encoding should be identical with the external LAME encoder. We provide built in encoding for users who prefer the simplicity and don't want to deal with figuring out how to handle setting up the external encoder but there is no compulsion to use it. The advantage of the built in encoder (like other built in encoders like Windows media and Libsndfile) is that it encodes on the fly - ie we don't have to create a Wave file first before running the encoder. BTW LAME itself isn't "free" - thats a myth. Any commercial application that has MP3 encoding has to pay the license fee. Since the external encoder is distributed free under the GPL licence there is no charge for that. If you look at the LAME website they say this: LAME is an educational tool to be used for learning about MP3 encoding. The goal of the LAME project is to use the open source model to improve the psycho acoustics, noise shaping and speed of MP3. Using the LAME encoding engine (or other mp3 encoding technology) in your software may require a patent license in some countries. You can see that Cakewalk is listed as a licensed company here: http://www.mp3licensing.com/licensees/index.asp
post edited by Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] - 2015/10/11 19:44:00
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 21:12:25
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Well apparently that's not good enough Noel, you, the company, your friends, family and you pets should do a whip round and pay for it yourselves so we can all use it for free... ;) Even if we don't need to use it...
I think this is entirely reasonable... ;)
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/11 23:39:04
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Years ago, in an ancient version of Sonar, I paid for the MP3 upgrade. The unlock code still works fine, and I am using the Lame one Sonar installs.
However, I remember the UI from that old version claimed it was a Fraunhofer version, not Lame. Although I have corresponded with Cakewalk regarding this, I still don't understand why I can't have the original version instead of the Lame one.
Thanks for any enlightenment!
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 07:55:26
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 09:01:16
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Wake up, rscain. And please cover your mouth when you yawn.
And thanks for adding such an intelligent and rude comment here.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 15:02:47
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Wake up, rscain. And please cover your mouth when you yawn.
And thanks for adding such an intelligent and rude comment here.
My apologies, I wasn't intending to be rude. While I have seen countless threads on this topic over the years I realize this may not be the case with everyone, so my comment was inappropriate. And despite my sometimes unintentional rudeness, I do cover my mouth when I yawn.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 15:53:58
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Thanks for your reply, rscain. Much appreciated.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 20:54:02
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Oh GREAT - Now I have yawned too.
At least this iteration of the endless discussion about licensing fees for encoding MP3 didn't venture into the territory of whether or not worms and caterpillars can hear the difference between 48 k and 96 k sample rates. :)
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 21:04:53
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Worms yes, caterpillars no ...
Neither can discern 44.1K vs 48K though, UNLESS 'Dribble' was checked and 'Dither' was unchecked during the final export.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 21:07:38
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Squashed worms can actually perceive MP3 as better quality than WAV.
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/12 21:26:21
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Years ago, in an ancient version of Sonar, I paid for the MP3 upgrade. The unlock code still works fine, and I am using the Lame one Sonar installs.
However, I remember the UI from that old version claimed it was a Fraunhofer version, not Lame. Although I have corresponded with Cakewalk regarding this, I still don't understand why I can't have the original version instead of the Lame one.
Thanks for any enlightenment!
I still have that old encoder that I got when I had Guitar tracks 2.0 , I don't know if it's just me forgetting how to use it but I have never been able to get it to output anything but noise in Win 7 64. It doesn't work in Sonar anyway though, I had to upgrade to the new encoder when I got Sonar 7. I think I had win 98 SE when I got this. Cool thing with the old one was it was it's own standalone exe 
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/13 07:52:21
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"The Old One" was an exe that unlocked the encoder. If you contact Support, they will hook you up with a tool to unlock the encoder recent Sonar versions - if you had previously purchased a version that included the MP3 licensing.
post edited by BobF - 2015/10/13 08:02:26
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Re: Is there an official Cakewalk MP3 encoder for SONAR Platinum?
2015/10/15 16:20:15
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☄ Helpfulby Doktor Avalanche 2015/10/15 17:03:49
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Squashed worms can actually perceive MP3 as better quality than WAV.
I went and tested your theory, I don't think they heard anything... hmm..
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