apkhazava
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Midi Editing Problems !!!
Hi !!! Need a help with editing midi !!! During a playback? if pointer is set on the half of the note? this note is not played and sound comes out from the next note... How can i fix it ??? Because another editors play all of the notes, no matter where playback pointer is set (Acid, Reaper, e.t.c) 
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Anderton
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/14 12:16:59
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You can enable searchback for program changes and controllers, but not notes. If SONAR doesn't "see" the note-on, it won't play the note.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/14 12:33:00
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apkhazava
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/14 16:15:26
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I think what Anderton is saying is that the note doesn't start exactly on the beat, but the snap-to is set for an exact beat, or measure, so the note-on event is before the place where the now line is.
Right-click the note in the staff view or Piano Roll view and see if it starts at something like measure 32, beat 4:942 instead of the first beat in the next measure, like measure 33, beat 1:000.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/14 17:01:44
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57Gregy
I think what Anderton is saying is that the note doesn't start exactly on the beat,
I think what Anderton is saying is that if there are any notes crossing the now pointer when you hit "play", Sonar will not do a search back to find and play the most recent note on events that correspond to those notes that cross the now pointer. Sonar can be configured to do a search back on controller events, but not notes.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 11:53:28
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I'd certainly hope that such a feature would be entirely optional and disabled by default.
I can see where it might be convenient, but for the most part rewinding to a previous note could be quite an annoyance while editing. When I'm editing MIDI I'm very specific about where I place the Now line. I wouldn't want the DAW to be second-guessing me.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 13:31:35
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[I think what Anderton is saying is that if there are any notes crossing the now pointer when you hit "play", Sonar will not do a search back to find and play the most recent note on events that correspond to those notes that cross the now pointer. Sonar can be configured to do a search back on controller events, but not notes.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 15:15:37
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I can imagine the potential for sonic chaos when filters & suchlike are opening/closing at the wrong times!
As Bit says, I would only want this as an option, easily disableable (great word!)
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 16:14:56
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bitflipper
I'd certainly hope that such a feature would be entirely optional and disabled by default.
I can see where it might be convenient, but for the most part rewinding to a previous note could be quite an annoyance while editing. When I'm editing MIDI I'm very specific about where I place the Now line. I wouldn't want the DAW to be second-guessing me.
Anyways, its very problematic... in particular? when you have one long note and need to edit short notes that might be sound same time (in same midi track) ... Im checkin' forums? googling? but answer is - "no answer" or "impossible" ...
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 17:07:20
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A workaround is to simply freeze or bounce the track with the long note temporarily.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 17:08:09
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Just beat me to it:
The workaround is to bounce the long notes to audio (at least temporarily). If the short notes you want to edit are the same synth, you'll need to temporarily mute the notes you want to edit or move them to another track so you can bounce just the long ones.
Like the other Dave, I personally think MIDI note "chasing" is a poor solution to the problem, and wouldn't use it most of the time unless maybe it could be enabled/disabled on a per-track basis. Re-triggering MIDI notes does not give the same result as unpausing audio. Usually I either don't really need to hear notes that started earlier, or they're just pad sounds that I can easily freeze/bounce to audio early on. Or I just PageUp to an earlier measure to hear what I'm missing.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/15 17:47:13
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2015/10/16 19:04:57
Haven't used Reaper or Acid but Sonar seems behave the same as the 4 or 5 other DAW Midi editors I've used over the past 25 years. I know it can be frustrating when the program doesn't play a note that starts earlier but personally I prefer it this way.
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Re: Midi Editing Problems !!!
2015/10/16 16:11:56
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Bristol_Jonesey
A workaround is to simply freeze or bounce the track with the long note temporarily.
Yeah, thats the option, but anyways, better this option to be added ...
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