Vocal sync questio

Hard to say without hearing the results, but typically you'd designate the male vocal as the guide track and sync the backing vocals to it.

Thank you for your replies
Doc, you said to research something- I dont know where AUD.ini file is located and how to delete it, so I am waiting when I will have time to research it. Still have dropouts. But this song had way too many tracks after I recorded hundred takes for each part on vocals. What is aud file?
 
Anderton, syncing it to male vocal would be hard because it is recorded on 5 different tracks- each part has it's track. I can not easily move all parts to one track because each track was constructed from different takes. We recorded many takes and I put the best takes together and deleted the unused takes, but good parts still located on different take lines. I know there must be a way to bounce it to single track? But I am learning by doing things, so I dont know how to make one track from 5 tracks with multiple takes lines.
 
My backing vocals I physically dragged from different takes to 2 audio tracks, so it would be easier to sync one track to another with the hope that it will take care of phase issue (also not so obvious when Pan L+R). It sounds like several people- I was hoping it would sound like one person. Originally I intended it to be a duo, but the male vocal was so much better than female- I had to pan L+R and turn down female vocal to make it sound like backing track. Also having doubled backing tracks makes it heavier and takes attention from music. It feels like the song is now overloaded on vocals. So the hope is- if I use Vocal sync, it would make backing vocal sound more like one person and not many. (It sounds like 70s disco song with bunch of females back up. My vocalist sounds like Elvis with chicks dancing on a background, but the song is actually about the War).
 
Any way. If I sync each track to male vocal, they may come out different to each other and sound even more like bunch of backup singers. Thanks for reading.

vladasynI dont know where AUD.ini file is located and how to delete it, so I am waiting when I will have time to research it.

The default location for the AUD.INI file is C:\Users\[your name]\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR Platinum
 
Windows hides the folder so you may need to unhide hidden folders using the window's Organize > Folder and Search Options > View, and enable Hidden Folders.
 

Thank you for suggestion, I am looking now- bounce to track is not that simple operation. First of all- you have to select source. So when I select "Track" it gives me a list of all of my 100 tracks. And they all together highlighted in blue as if they were selected. If I click on individual track, it turns white. But does it mean that they all was selected and one now deselected, or this one IS selected and the once in blue not selected? Also my tracks now have effects, so I have to deselect effects if I dont want effects to get mixed in already...

vladasyn
Thank you for suggestion, I am looking now- bounce to track is not that simple operation.

 
What you want to do is simple, look in the Help under "Bouncing Tracks." There are options that can allow for much more complicated operations but they don't really apply here. 
 
1. Select all the tracks you want to bounce by ctrl-clicking on their header track numbers (the numbers turn bright blue).
2. Choose Bounce to Tracks.
3. For Category, you DON'T want Tracks because that will bounce each track individually...which has its uses, but we can discuss that some other time. Select Entire Mix because you want a mix of the tracks, and check all the check marks if you want to include FX and such. However, you probably don't want FX because VocalSync will not be able to analyze a voice with chorus, delay, etc. since it won't know which is the "real" voice.
4. Click OK and a new track with the premix will be added at the end of the existing tracks.
 
 

I did not do the bounce, I figured- the audio is in track, even in more than one take line- it is in track. So it was.
 
From what I can hear with my ears after about 8 hours of on and off work with audio is that bouncing each backing track to main vocal track worked better. I cant hear details- need to let my ears rest. But it *feels* as it addressed phasing some what and feels like the backing tracks got glued to the main vocal (as they expected), which made them some what lighter.
 
I will listen it in a couple of hours. The backing tracks I synced to each other I used full blown 100% processing. When synced to main vocal track- used default 25%... It looked horrible. I could not believe I sang that far from the main track. But I think it makes it some what better. Will update. Thanks.

I was referring to both. There are 5 vocal tracks for different parts with multiple take lines in each track.

Thank you for your reply. I find it that tweaking percentage serves little purpose because it is nearly impossible to tell what it doing. It stretching in one place, constricting in another. I can see the wav pics go left and right but never align with the reference track. The reason I used 100% was because I heard it aligned one ending of the phrase- it said "T" together. But it also made other parts not together, also I don't know if they were together matching... It is nice tool idea but it is far from being perfect. I guess it helps some.  

vladasyn
Thank you for your reply. I find it that tweaking percentage serves little purpose because it is nearly impossible to tell what it doing. It stretching in one place, constricting in another. I can see the wav pics go left and right but never align with the reference track. The reason I used 100% was because I heard it aligned one ending of the phrase- it said "T" together. But it also made other parts not together, also I don't know if they were together matching... It is nice tool idea but it is far from being perfect. I guess it helps some.  

That says to me you are working on vocal clips that are too long - Vocal Sync definitely works better on shorter clips, or as a minimum, those clips which are not drifting further apart with time. (Sometimes you just have to do another take and try to get it right). The percentage number to me is irrelevant, but they had to put something there to give a context or reference - to help the user to find the "sweet spot".

Don't forget Melodyne Essential lets you split notes, and adjust timings of "blob" starts/ends.