petelaramee
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Mixing Keys! UPDATED MIX!
Hey there, this is my first attempt at mixing keyboard solos and since this forum has a higher % of keyboard players than most of the other forums I frequent I thought I'd post this here. Keys sounds just seem to vary more from monitor to monitor so I guess I'm looking to see if the keys lead and guitar lead match (I know the snare sounds like crap - not looking at that right now). EDIT - Updated mix with keys left-ish and guitars right-ish. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13156219 Keys melody starts around 1:38, first keys solo starts around 1:50 and then the guitars and keys trade off. Thanks!
post edited by petelaramee - 2015/11/10 19:16:08
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/01 20:41:16
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Well, I don't play keys but this sounds just great to me. Fantastic tune, great playing and the mix rocks to my ears. That ending bit kicks *ss, reminds me a bit of King Crimson's Discipline, not the tone but the playing around with intervals. Yeah, I like this one.
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petelaramee
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/02 05:21:41
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kevinwal Well, I don't play keys but this sounds just great to me. Fantastic tune, great playing and the mix rocks to my ears. That ending bit kicks *ss, reminds me a bit of King Crimson's Discipline, not the tone but the playing around with intervals. Yeah, I like this one.
Thanks for taking the time to listen, Kevin. Although I like Prog I was never a huge King Crimson fan so I have to admit I had to look up that song. And I do hear what you're talking about. I'm glad you liked it.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/03 12:08:28
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Excellent Pete - the playing is the shizzle and the mix sounds really well balanced to me
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/03 12:25:35
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Nice use of the stereo field with those guitars. You've certainly got a nice prog rock track there with a classic keyboard solo.....nice.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/03 12:43:09
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If there is one thing I would change regarding the keys is perhaps the reverb which is pushing them back compared to the guitars. Other than that nicely played and produced track. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/03 20:29:56
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daryl1968 Excellent Pete - the playing is the shizzle and the mix sounds really well balanced to me
Thanks man! Nice use of the stereo field with those guitars. You've certainly got a nice prog rock track there with a classic keyboard solo.....nice. Thanks. I played all the guitars and bass, but I can't take credit for the keys. Wookiee If there is one thing I would change regarding the keys is perhaps the reverb which is pushing them back compared to the guitars. Other than that nicely played and produced track. Thanks for sharing.
I don't normally like reverb on my melody and/or lead guitar parts (although I usually have a good amount of delay on there). The keyboard player sent me his tracks with a tad of verb already in his tracks. ...hmmmm...I'll have to listen and think about this one. Thanks for taking the time to listen.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/04 09:43:41
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Nice tune, Pete! I d/l'd it so I can listen to it later with headphones, so this may be incorrect, but it seems to me that when you start the keys/guitar trade-offs, they seem to come from the same point in the stereo field, more or less dead center. When I think of doing step-outs, the musicians might be side-by-side, but there's still a bit of separation, if only visually. It just felt a little odd to me when one instrument "replaced" the other in space. Of course, "odd" is why I love Ozric Tentacles!
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/06 05:37:37
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TheMaartian Nice tune, Pete! I d/l'd it so I can listen to it later with headphones, so this may be incorrect, but it seems to me that when you start the keys/guitar trade-offs, they seem to come from the same point in the stereo field, more or less dead center. When I think of doing step-outs, the musicians might be side-by-side, but there's still a bit of separation, if only visually. It just felt a little odd to me when one instrument "replaced" the other in space. Of course, "odd" is why I love Ozric Tentacles!
Thanks. Panning sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/10 16:51:20
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Cool tune! I really liked that, on many levels. Mix-wise, the comments about how the key and guitar solos seem to "replace each other" seems about right - I would personally pan them apart, just not at extremes since there's good width already in the mix. PS... that was a unique ending.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/10 19:06:58
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stevec Cool tune! I really liked that, on many levels. Mix-wise, the comments about how the key and guitar solos seem to "replace each other" seems about right - I would personally pan them apart, just not at extremes since there's good width already in the mix. PS... that was a unique ending.
Thanks man. Ending is just down-picking the same-ongoing riff with a clean guitar on the low B & E strings, doubled and panned. I actually remixed this today and that new version is in the link above.
post edited by petelaramee - 2015/11/10 19:24:23
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/10 19:24:35
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Nice job! When I first heard the separation (at 1:50), it seemed to jump out. At 2:50, I think it's perfect, so I suspect that was me specifically looking for the panning. Spot on, Pete!
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/10 20:47:10
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Another brilliant tune. Awesome soloing. Mix sounds spot on to me.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/11 08:38:21
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Thanks guys. I'm glad it's finally coming around.
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Re: Mixing Keys!
2015/11/11 21:37:44
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Nice tune and great guitar solos!
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