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2015/11/12 13:22:37 (permalink)

AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it?

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I have just taken the plunge and update to Jamaica Plans and thankfully the issue with the WAVES plugin VST scan did not raise its head, which was a relief as I was preparing to do battle
 
I was ready to review and set-up my templates to take advantage of the new routing but I just discovered that soloing an AUX Track being used as a "bus" also mutes all the tracks feeding it 
 
This is what I want to achieve...
 
I would like to have all of my tracks for a group of instruments (eg 4 backing vocals) within a TRACK FOLDER and then have an AUX track at the top of the stack acting as a "BUS within the track pane" so I can blend them together and then mix them with the track using the AUX Track
 
I often like to solo the group whilst I do my blending of volumes, EQ and panning etc.
 
However, when I solo the AUX track it is acting like a normal track and it mutes all the other tracks - including the tracks feeding it
 
An example often mentioned is using an AUX track to blend a top and bottom mic on a snare - surely you would want to do this with the AUX Track solo'd so you only hear the top and bottom mic tracks
 
I appreciate that the clue is in the name "AUX Track" but I thought everyone was excited about being able to have "busses in the track pane" - surely this way of working makes this approach a non-starter?
 
 
Am I missing something obvious? (very likely!), would I be better off sticking with "proper" busses, is there a better way to organise and group tracks to achieve what I want?
 
Thanks in advance and I would love to hear how others are using AUX TRACKS and PATCH POINTS within their workflow and templates

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/11/12 13:57:07 (permalink)
Solo the track folder. Or use Prefader Sends instead of Outputs from the source tracks, mute the tracks (prefader sends remain active), and mix with the send levels.
 
EDIT: And, no, you're not missing anything. There have been several threads discussing the desire to have Aux tracks behave like buses in this respect, where upstream sources and downstream destinations are not muted by soloing the Aux track.
post edited by brundlefly - 2015/11/12 14:10:55

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/11/12 15:09:38 (permalink)
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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/04 13:33:06 (permalink)
Ive posted about this same issue - its a MASSIVE oversight.  The workflow you can use with a bus is way more useful in many ways.  I forced myself to remix a few tracks from a long time ago and the idea that you can have layers of invisible routing going in without being able to solo is way more time consuming.  There are useful things about this feature... however.... not being able to solo what your doing is silly

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/04 15:05:09 (permalink)
My fix for this is very uncool and suitable for a geezer like myself. I hit the master mute button to kill everything and then individually unmute the AUX and tracks feeding it. Takes a few seconds. It's not pretty but it's not difficult.

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/04 15:24:33 (permalink)
I simply group the solo buttons for the aux- and its "feed"-tracks. 
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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/04 16:53:21 (permalink)
I get the impression you want to solo the AUX track only. If your send to the AUX track is set to PRE-Fader you can just kill the Fader on the track feeding the AUX track which essentially solos the AUX.
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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/04 20:55:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SWANG 2015/12/20 22:03:33
I'm working on an improvement to the Aux solo functionality so stay tuned...

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/06 12:13:58 (permalink)
Nice...  
 
I may still use Folders for this purpose, but am still curious to see what you come up with.
 

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/20 12:19:05 (permalink)
I too spent a lot of time trying to grasp the aux-track functionality.  I like the idea of being able to "send" to a new aux-track, but it took me quite a while trying to comprehend what was going on, especially the reason an aux track was not behaving like a bus.  Why is that?  Is there some [hidden] reason an aux behaves differently than a bus, like it was purposefully designed to function differently?  Huh?
 
What I was doing was sending a vocal to 2 new aux tracks, and panning the aux hard L and R, then putting the Cakewalk Pitchshifter on each, with a 0.05 and -0.05 shift on each for a vocal widening trick.  Worked OK, but I wished I had a stereo pitchshifter that allowed me to shift R/L independently.  Would be a lot easier.

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Re: AUX Tracks - possible to "SOLO" and hear the tracks feeding it? 2015/12/20 21:53:06 (permalink)
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I'm working on an improvement to the Aux solo functionality so stay tuned...


thank you. any chance we'll see these improvements in the lexington update?
 
edit: nevermind. just saw the lexington update pdf. maybe next update then?
post edited by SWANG - 2015/12/20 22:07:47
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