New to SONAR!What basics should I know

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New to SONAR!What basics should I know

Yo everyone, I'm a bit new here to the SONAR world(was using audacity for years and had to upgrade) Any basics I should know before mixing and recording?

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 21:54:44 (permalink)
    What genre are mainly focusing on? Theres plenty of knowledgeable people here. Welcome and im sure everybody here would be happy to answer questions of yours. 
     
    I deal with mostly hip-hop/rap/r&b style. I dont know your past experience much but if you need help in those genres feel free to PM me, i check this pretty often throughout the day. You can also PM me or ask here for basic set ups questions such as finding your interface etc...
     
    There's a fairly large variety of musicians here to get knowledge and tips from. Id recommend checking out Craig Andertons tip thread as well.
     
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 22:12:35 (permalink)
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    Any basics I should know before mixing and recording?


    Probably all of them! 😉

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 22:15:15 (permalink)
    Ok well may I first start by saying you are handsome Woody *giggles*, and thank you so much for your kindness. I am a kpop, jpop, vocaloid and anime coverist. Kpop mostly centers around the r&b, techno,  pop, hip-hop, trot and ballad genres so I'm sure you would see the similarities except the language it is in! I and my sister have Scarlett 2i2's and Audio Technica at2020 xlr mics(you could say we are music twins and think alike, plus Sweetwater has good deals)
     
    Right now I am hoping that Sonar can help me with my mixes sounding so thin cellphone speakers, since audacity just wasn't doing it for me and adobe audition scares me lol, but I have been looking up tutorials all day and I just wanted to see the best way to start it off, since my genres are quite similar but different.
     
     

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 22:16:05 (permalink)
    I'm sorry hah but anything specific there/ i do't want to die before I begin! Cute yak picture btw!
     

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 22:21:36 (permalink)
    Start doing it right away if you had watch cakewalk video. You will make mistakes and it is ok. We all learn by mistakes. The more you do the better you become. There are some good basic tutorial that comes in the manual.

    Groove3.com is were I learn most of the time. This forum is full of good and experience cakewalk users that are always eager to help.
    post edited by musichoo - 2015/11/12 22:34:07

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 22:40:10 (permalink)
    Well thank you very much! I will definitely look into groove3! But can any of you help me with this problem?My sister an I's mixes come out really thin on cellphones but they sound good on computers, beats Pills, and headphones. We record in our bedroom so how do we get our mixes to sound good on our mobile phones, like when we watch or listen from YouTube or faceboook?! We are going mad simply because they are so many coverists who mix in their bedrooms and their mixes sound great on cellphones!
     
    Why do our mixes sound so thin?!
     
     
     
     
    post edited by Kamodulation - 2015/11/12 22:51:29

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:02:57 (permalink)
    If you want, PM me and can go a lil more indepth
     
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:04:41 (permalink)
    I haven't been a member long enough so I can't PM :(

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:06:12 (permalink)
    ok np i sent u one. If its doesnt work ill just post some things.
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:08:02 (permalink)
    I received it but could not reply*sighs* fu

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:21:12 (permalink)
    Ok I emailed you!

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:26:42 (permalink)
    I'd keep checking back as well, usually some of the older (no offense sonar vets ;) ) hang around here and give out their wealth of knowledge.
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:29:16 (permalink)
    Welcome to Cakewalk Sonar Kamodulation,
     
    First I suggest learning as much as possible about Sonar and how things get done in it.
     
    YouTube has a bunch of excellent Sonar Tutorials
     
    Sonar Tutorials

    Groove 3 Has rather good video on CakeWalk Sonar tutorials and they are currently 50% off each video download.
     
    More Sonar Tutorials
     
    I hope this Helps
    post edited by Jesse G - 2015/11/12 23:42:12

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/12 23:47:28 (permalink)
    Kamodulation
    Well thank you very much! I will definitely look into groove3! But can any of you help me with this problem?My sister an I's mixes come out really thin on cellphones but they sound good on computers, beats Pills, and headphones. We record in our bedroom so how do we get our mixes to sound good on our mobile phones, like when we watch or listen from YouTube or faceboook?! We are going mad simply because they are so many coverists who mix in their bedrooms and their mixes sound great on cellphones!
     
    Why do our mixes sound so thin?!
     
     



    Use different monitors when mixing.   I have three different types of monitors to check my mixes.  Two different type of KRK  Monitors V4's  and Rocket 6's and a very small pair of desktop PC monitors,  If I can get the mix to sound great on all three, then I've done my job correctly.  Take all mixes out to the car for a listen or play back on a smaller set of speakers.   You may want to invest in a monitor switching and level control box.
     
    I use the Mackie Big Knob for this. 
     
    A very inexpensive version of this is the Samson C-Control  $99.00
    An imitation version of the Big Kow is the Behringer MONITOR2USB for $199.99
    The Mackie Big knob is 299.99  - BIG KNOB
     
     

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/13 01:31:10 (permalink)
    I use both monitor and headphone. A good headphones like at40 goes a long way for me.

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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/13 11:45:43 (permalink)
    As already mentioned there are a ton of good tutorial vids on YouTube.
     
    I'd start, however, with CW's own Cake TV and Sonar University.  Both have tons of videos on a wide variety of topics at every skill level.
     
    Don't be put off by the older Sonar X2/X3 videos.  I'd say 90% of the content applies to Sonar 2015.
     
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/14 20:29:36 (permalink)
    If you try to get a grasp on everything before you start being productive and laying tracks down , you will probably never get started recording your projects or music for real. I would suggest to start learning by figuring out what you want to do step wise, and learn what you need to know about that particular step before moving on to say, step 2, 3 ,4 ect. , and once you get to the following steps learn about what you need to know to get past that particular step and on to the next. Along with coming back to the forum to ask specific questions about specific steps or issues you might be having. Been here since Sonar 4 Producer, although my post numbers are low due to the new format with subscriptions and registering format etc.  There a lot of knowledgeable and helpful people here. And hopefully I will contribute to being one, to you and others. Stick with it, Sonar is a very good production/recording program.
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    Re: New to SONAR!What basics should I know 2015/11/14 22:21:57 (permalink)
    Sounds like you need the basics on mixing as much as you do on using Sonar.  If your mixes sound thin using Audacity, I don't suspect that will change just by using Sonar.  Pick up a book or some youTubes on mixing (I recommend The Recording Revolution - he has a series of 5-minute videos on youTube for mixing) and learn how to properly use EQ and compression.  Granted, real-time feedback with plug-ins in Sonar will be easier to use than doing it in Audacity.

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