Windows 10: Tried it and reverted to 7...

Hi
Just to tell you that on my rig, windows 10 exhibited strange behavior and visually, it wasn't as nice as in Win7. Some plugins were set in a 8 bit looking frame. They wouldn't dock and when I hid them (clicking on the "-" in the corner), they plain dissapeared and I could not find them any more... Something calld "Teleport" was involved in running the plugins and it crashed often. Went back to Win7 and everything looks marvelous and things are more stable.

When I moved to a version of Sonar that was 64-bit (about 3 years ago, I think) I had lots of trouble with my 32-bit plug-ins, even using BitBridge or whatever it was called.  Since then, I've ditched all the 32-bit plug-ins and never looked back.  Although, the old free Izotope Vinyl plug-in was pretty cool, and they never made a free 64-bit version AKAIK.  Just saying, 32 and 64 don't play well together, it may not be Windows 10.

I went back to 7 too. I kept having the problem Sonarplt.exe quit working. Works great on 7.

SilkTone
What I hate about Windows 10 compared to Windows 7 is the flat theme. Personal taste aside, there is an actual problem in that for instance on a 40" 4K monitor where you have many non-maximized windows open at the same time, everything just blends together and you can't easily tell where one window title/border ends and another starts.
 
Whoever designed the flat theme had no clue about UI design and what important role depth cues play in recognizing objects, throwing out 20+ years of UI refinement out the window. It has zero to do with skeuomorphism, and everything to do with using the powerful ability of our brain to identify objects based on depth cues.
 
Note I'm talking about non-Sonar related work. Fortunately Sonar still has all of its depth cues in place (minus the title bar and border), so it is still a pleasure to use. Please never consider flat as the way to go in Sonar.
 
Other than that, Windows 10 has been working well for me.

 
Hell yeah - flat GUIs are so ugly and regressive in terms of usability, but sadly so many developers (including DAW manufacturers - Ableton, anyone? - and plug-in manufacturers) think it's a good thing...

SilkTone
What I hate about Windows 10 compared to Windows 7 is the flat theme. Personal taste aside, there is an actual problem in that for instance on a 40" 4K monitor where you have many non-maximized windows open at the same time, everything just blends together and you can't easily tell where one window title/border ends and another starts.
 
Whoever designed the flat theme had no clue about UI design and what important role depth cues play in recognizing objects, throwing out 20+ years of UI refinement out the window. It has zero to do with skeuomorphism, and everything to do with using the powerful ability of our brain to identify objects based on depth cues.

What? No more shadows?!?! FFS, that was stupid.
 
Regards,
Dan

Whilst i lke W10 per se, i have to admit the recent big "update" or whatever you ŵant to call it, did not sit well with my system, and to such an extent i had to roll back.

The problem was with Winsock - it nuked the settings to such an extent i had to reset them each time i did a cold boot in oder to access the internet. This is a documented issue on the Windows 10 forums., so far no reaction from MS nor a solution AFAIA. (do a "Winsock" search on said forum).

It also changed my PC id so that AD2 had to be re-authorised. Yes i know this has already been reported, and its not a show stopper, merely frustrating. It should not have done that.

One major, one minor issue, but enough to want to stop any updztes except for Windows Defender.

Cheers,
Jerry

The early UI developers recognized how effective depth cues were, and used it to great effect so that users knew exactly what can be interacted with, what not, where one thing ends and another starts etc. You see this in Windows 3.1.
 
Sonar uses depth cues a lot, and with control density as high as Sonar's, it would become extremely difficult and frustrating if all depth cues were removed. You can see how the fugly (flat & ugly) theme in Windows 10 affects control density by requiring large gaps between all controls. All we are looking at now is a collection of flat monochrome lines, circles and squares. The only way to see where one ends and another starts is to use enough space to separate them. Yes part of this is because MS thinks touch screens are the future (yea, just like 3D TVs are - I still have some of those cool giant 3D glasses somewhere, haven't used tem in ~3 years). So controls need to be spaced out far enough to allow fat finger control.
 
There is a good balance between using no depth cues and using too much of it (approaching skeuomorphism). MS grudgingly added back drop shadows in W8, first only to the window that has focus, then later to all windows. Why? Because they realized how important that was, even though it goes 100% against their "nothing that can in any way be construed as skeuomorphism whatsoever" goal. It helps a bit, but that gets us to about 5% of where Windows 7 is. Making title bars colored gets us another 3%, so now we are at 8%. Still need to go 92% of the way.
 
Add to this that things like the sizing cursor's hit area is now outside the window (!!) due to the thin border, making it hard to resize the correct window when there are many windows in close proximity.
 
Honestly, they should not have let the interns design the W8/W10 UI. It shows that whoever did it had no clue and though it would be OK to put a non-windowed phone UI on a highly windowed environment.
 
Please let's just bring back the real UI designers, they seemed to understand this kind of stuff.

If you don't embrace W-10 you will wake up one day with a hairdo like this:

 
You will be wearing this:

 
and driving this:

 
YMMV...
 
W-10, for me... a reboot fixes almost anything. Strange but true.
J

jbow
... a reboot fixes almost anything. Strange but true.

True since Windows Version 1.0...
 
Which also had a flat interface. When they went to a 3D look later on it was "new and improved" Now we are back to flat and it is still "new and improved"

Windows 10 and Sonar Professional are working fine for me.
(I always cleanly install the latest Windows 10 build from the ISO though.)