Vilovilo
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Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
I'm evaluating Dmg Equilibrium .when I insert it ,it is routed as mono and it has an awfull off phase sound.
It doesn't occur with the vst 2 version.
I rolled back to Jamaica and all is OK.
All the best and thank to all the team for the job done.
Olivier
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/25 16:13:21
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This may be a bug in equilibrium. Sonar now supports setting true mono in vst3 and it works in some other plugins. It was in fact a fix. Well look into it and also contact the developer if necessary.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/25 20:00:57
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By the sounds of it it's not just equilibrium. Kingston is causing issues with my plugs (IRIS2 being the worst offender with a 100% crash rate (it brings down Sonar Platinum, not just the plugin). I'm having the noise issues, some weird validation issues all of sudden with iLok (*head shake*--> iLok) and I've lost my sustain pedal (which works fine on everything except Sonar now.
I'd say if you're having problems and the rollback solves them (like several others have already written about), then avoid Kingston until there's a patch.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/25 22:36:11
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I had trouble with the elicenser that Steinberg uses. It got corrupted during the upgrade and I had to D/L a new version. I think it's the same company that does iLock.
Regards, John I want to make it clear that I am an Eedjit. I have no direct, or indirect, knowledge of business, the music industry, forum threads or the meaning of life. I know about amps. WIN 10 Pro X64, I7-3770k 16 gigs, ASUS Z77 pro, AMD 7950 3 gig, Steinberg UR44, A-Pro 500, Sonar Platinum, KRK Rokit 6
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/25 22:49:42
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aghschwabe
By the sounds of it it's not just equilibrium. Kingston is causing issues with my plugs (IRIS2 being the worst offender with a 100% crash rate (it brings down Sonar Platinum, not just the plugin). I'm having the noise issues, some weird validation issues all of sudden with iLok (*head shake*--> iLok) and I've lost my sustain pedal (which works fine on everything except Sonar now.
I have no issues with Iris 2. It is installed using challenge/response instead of ILok. I do have some plug-ins which are iLok and Pace protected such as Eventide. Xils Labs and AIR which all used disk based protection instead of a dongle. They all work OK for me in Kingston on Win10. I also elected not to update from iLok License Manager 2.5.2 ATM.
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Vilovilo
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/26 03:09:03
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
This may be a bug in equilibrium. Sonar now supports setting true mono in vst3 and it works in some other plugins. It was in fact a fix. Well look into it and also contact the developer if necessary.
Noel , thanks a lot for being so responsive .I'm confident in the fact that this issue will be solved, I've mentionned this fact in a mean to share information ,as far as Equilibrium is quite efficient but also quite expensive ,it is worth to make it work properly and if the bug comes from the plug-in ,then it will be easier to talk about it between developers. All the best and have a nice Thanks-Giving.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/26 05:35:35
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I am having squealing noises coming from Cakewalk Sound Centre on all projects and the standalone synth since downloading Kingston and Rapture sessions.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/27 06:17:41
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Vilovilo - I'm using Equilibrium here, and the VST3 version seems OK.
However, on a mono guitar part - in a stereo interleave track - Equilibrium VST3 still comes up as a mono plug, with no way of changing it.
I'm not sure this is what I'd want - as I have some streo plugins on th etrack and I'd want the eq to come *after* these (so I'd want it to be stereo)
The VST2 version is fine.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/27 07:53:14
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Actually - the VST3 version instantiates itself as mono, even on an empty (stereo interleave) track.
This isn't good. I think it's best to stick with the VST2 version for now...
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/27 11:26:11
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YHi jbraner, This is exactly what happens here no way to change the routing in VST3, I'm confident in the fact that a fix will come soon wether from Cakewalk or from Dave Gamble. Cheers , Olivier
post edited by Vilovilo - 2015/11/27 11:41:51
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jbraner
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/11/27 12:06:32
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Hi Olivier,
I'm sure they can fix it too. I've sent an email off to Dave Gamble - I had some other problems a year or two ago, and between Noel and Dave, we got them sorted out.
If you're evaluating - just use VST2 for now ;-)
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jbraner
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/12/08 17:07:00
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This is still broken with the Kingston update...
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Vilovilo
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/12/09 03:01:56
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Thank you for the information,then I can spare the time needed to download the update ,hope a fix will come soon.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/12/23 17:13:41
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Check Equilibrium out with the Lexington update - it's working correctly here now.
VST3 Equilibrium comes up as a stereo plugin on a stereo track - and when I change the track interleave to mono, it comes up as a mono plugin.
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/12/24 08:37:34
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Hi John,
Yeah I got an email from the developer as well. This is actually a bit puzzling to me since I didn't change the VST3 code in Lexington. Are you sure this didn't work in Kingston?
The only think that could have remotely affected this is this change "loading protocols were optimized further for the most commonly encountered project settings". i.e. when loading projects or instantiating plugins we first initialize them in stereo rather mono first then stereo as was done in earlier builds.
I can't see why this would matter to the plugin but you never know :)
Can you verify if the plugin still works ok if you switch the track interleave to mono and then back to stereo?
Also test with the 64 bit engine. If it works ok we'll close out the bug.
best,
Noel
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Re: Equilibrium is loosing balance with Kingston
2015/12/24 09:25:39
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hi John,
Yeah I got an email from the developer as well. This is actually a bit puzzling to me since I didn't change the VST3 code in Lexington. Are you sure this didn't work in Kingston?
The only think that could have remotely affected this is this change "loading protocols were optimized further for the most commonly encountered project settings". i.e. when loading projects or instantiating plugins we first initialize them in stereo rather mono first then stereo as was done in earlier builds.
I can't see why this would matter to the plugin but you never know :)
Hi Noel, I'm glad to hear that Dave was in touch with you - I sent hime a few emails, but never heard anything ;-) Can you verify if the plugin still works ok if you switch the track interleave to mono and then back to stereo?
Also test with the 64 bit engine. If it works ok we'll close out the bug.
Yes indeed, and I just double checked. stereo interleave track - VST3 Equilibrium loads up as a stereo plug mono interleave track - VST3 Equilibrium loads up as a mono plug This is as it should be and it works whether 64 bit double precision engine is ticked or not. So maybe "loading protocols were optimized further for the most commonly encountered project settings" affected it, but it definitely works now ;-) Thanks a lot for helping with this ;-)
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