Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice

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2015/11/24 23:53:01 (permalink)

Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice

So the new addition in Kingston upgrade "Rapture Session" surprised me, I downloaded, it was "free" why not ?
It gathered up all my Rapture Classic, Dimension Pro Classic and old Cakewalk Sound center patches and displayed them in a new fancy searchable plugin. Reminds me of the great search ability that came with Omnisphere 1, which I have great appreciation for . . . to quickly find multiple types of sounds you're looking for by searching a database of patches.
 
The ezine PDF really undersells this new addition, since it really only mentions that it is a Rapture Pro greatest hits type sound browser. Don't most Cakewalk users by now actually have the original Rapture and Dimension Pro synths ?
 
If you click on the gear icon, there's even a button to upgrade to Rapture Pro.  Hmmm.
I can't help wondering why development on Rapture Session preceded further development on Rapture Pro ?
 
Anyways, this new Rapture Session addition is something I find very usable, and my appreciation goes out to the Cakewalk developer team for offering it this way, at this time.
post edited by noynekker - 2015/11/25 00:57:15

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/24 23:59:00 (permalink)
    My guess is if they can get more people to pay for Rapture Pro then they will be able to put more resources into further development.
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 01:27:06 (permalink)
    +1, I actually installed some old Digital Sound Factory content for Cakewalk Sound Center when I saw Rapture Session announced. It is nice to be able to use those sounds without needing to load the 32-bit CW Sound Center. Not gotten to use it much yet, but is a very spiffy addition for sure.

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 04:39:32 (permalink)
    mettelus
    +1, I actually installed some old Digital Sound Factory content for Cakewalk Sound Center when I saw Rapture Session announced. It is nice to be able to use those sounds without needing to load the 32-bit CW Sound Center. Not gotten to use it much yet, but is a very spiffy addition for sure.




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    This is the best thing about it for me.
     
    There are certain sounds I use a lot from SC (Taurus pedals, CP70, sound effects etc.).  I have been loading SC and constantly freezing it, and unfreezing it to edit , freezing again, etc.  Really happy.
     
     

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 05:10:54 (permalink)
    mettelus
    +1, I actually installed some old Digital Sound Factory content for Cakewalk Sound Center when I saw Rapture Session announced. It is nice to be able to use those sounds without needing to load the 32-bit CW Sound Center. Not gotten to use it much yet, but is a very spiffy addition for sure.


    Well, what about macros? Are they mapped the same way as in CSC? I mean, when you use old CSC programs in RS and open an instrument page, do you see any mapped macros there?
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 05:18:24 (permalink)
    The only nicety still missing is knowing which keys have samples mapped to them or not. CSC and sforzando (for DimPro stuff) cannot be completely laid to rest yet. A keyboard showing live/dead keys would be helpful when browsing through patches... Some of these are oddballs with only 4 keys on the entire keyboard set (and on like G6 where no one with a 25-key controller would even think to look)

    Edit: Just saw your post about macros. Not dug into it very deeply yet, but the sequenced samples play fine, just the Rapture Session is more for playback, not editting, AFAICT.
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 06:20:37 (permalink)
    Rapture session is the replacement for sound center. It's way cooler, more powerful and modern. It also sounds better and has a ton of content. Session has the same synth engine as rapture pro and fixes in rapture pro apply to session as well. So is not like this was done in isolation. Pro also has tons of updates in this release.

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 09:00:46 (permalink)
    Just for clarity, Session didn't precede future development of Rapture Pro, it was done alongside a rather large update.
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Rapture/Whats-New
     
    We can't wait to hear what you all create with the updates.
     
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 09:26:10 (permalink)
    Thanks for the details and development of this to everyone at Cakewalk!! Although I rarely have used Sound Center in the past, now I'm certainly looking forward to using Rapture Session.
     
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 09:39:37 (permalink)
    Nice library content look on the left side, excellent GUI.

    This is like a simple Hybrid of : Kontakt, Sound center and Specrasonic GUI layout.

    i really like the X/Y pad and the vector mixer.

    Sounds : well some are good others is not that god, i cant stand all those FX sounds
    useless on standard music production, maybe some is usable for film score FX.

    That's why i hardly do use Dimension pro, Rapture, Dropzone and z3ta+

    What about real piano, bass, pads, strings, choir, flutes and trumpets and so forth..

    To consider fixing :
    * Adjustment of room / reverb sound
    * Quite high CPU usage in some of the patches, probably due to FX's processing.
    post edited by Soundblend - 2015/11/25 11:54:24
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 09:41:22 (permalink)
    Here's a half-awake, stupid question!!! What is Rapture Session? Is it a new synth to add to the arsenal for free or is it something to add to Rapture Pro, which I do not own? All my lights in CCC for Rapture Session are red. Is this a demo version? I'm not understanding. I visited the product page but I'm still confused as to this being a new synth for free download or something that I am going to have to buy Rapture Pro to be able to use. Thanks, guys!

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 09:47:57 (permalink)
    It is a new, free synth.

    It has a selection of sounds from Rapture Pro, as well as all the sounds from Dim Pro, Rapture and Sound Centre, as well as any expansion packs you have installed. It even shows my Museum Rapture sounds.

    It is excellent.
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 10:08:00 (permalink)
    Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
    Rapture session is the replacement for sound center. It's way cooler, more powerful and modern. It also sounds better and has a ton of content. Session has the same synth engine as rapture pro and fixes in rapture pro apply to session as well. So is not like this was done in isolation. Pro also has tons of updates in this release.



     I see Sound Center is still there as well. Rapture Session is also VST3.
     
     

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 10:11:54 (permalink)
    Yes, CSC is not deleted. It would be a problem when loading old projects which used the synth.
    Rapture Session ships with both VST2 and VST3 formats just like RPRo.
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 10:15:27 (permalink)
    Sidroe
    Here's a half-awake, stupid question!!!

    Best post of the morning, BY FAR, Sidroe!
    Like JB said its FREE!
    Haven't really "test driven" it yet, and I do have RapPro.
    I installed it, you should as well...
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 16:21:15 (permalink)
    scook
    Yes, CSC is not deleted. It would be a problem when loading old projects which used the synth.
    Rapture Session ships with both VST2 and VST3 formats just like RPRo.


    Well probably stop shipping csc in the future...

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 16:30:30 (permalink)
    I'm not seeing the Rapture Session as an update on CCC.  Where should I be looking?

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 16:34:58 (permalink)
    Played with Rapture Session a bit last night.  This is, imho, the best synth I think Cake's put out.  I have DimPro and Rapture as well but as far as a TON of instantly usable great sounds out of the gate, this one has it all for me...Nice job on this one, Cakewalk.

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 17:18:57 (permalink)
    Thanks, Deering! Downloaded, took forever, but pretty spiffy! Especially for free.

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/25 17:44:36 (permalink)
    The whole package is really big.
     
    What exactly is going on - is Rapture Session the synth?
    And the individual SessionXxx files the sound libraries?
     
    For example, SessionKeys007 is 1.13GB!!!
    Session-Orchestral-007 likewise.
    Estimated download time each is
    Greater than 12 hours.
     
    I'm going out for a beer.
    I hope it's done by bedtime.
     
     
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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 05:54:06 (permalink)
    Am I getting this right then SC has been replaced and SC is no longer a viable option. My projects with SC is making a screeching sound how do I replace those projects with rapture using the same instruments if SC is obsolete.

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 06:26:48 (permalink)
    Sound centre will still work on your system even if Cakewalk discontinue shipping it in the future. Rapture Session is its replacement going forward.

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 06:38:30 (permalink)
    dappa1
    Am I getting this right then SC has been replaced and SC is no longer a viable option. My projects with SC is making a screeching sound how do I replace those projects with rapture using the same instruments if SC is obsolete.




    I would suggest you make a note of the patch you are using in SC.
     
    Then load an instance of Rapture Session and point the output of the midi track associated with SC to Rapture Session and load the appropriate patch. 
     
    Then turn off SC and try playing back your project to see if it is all working.
     
    I have done it this way before to change the synth.
     
    I have not had any luck using the browser to replace a synth but I'm probably just not doing ti correctly.

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 06:41:45 (permalink)
    Mudgel that is not the case, SC is not working for a lot of people!

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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 08:46:42 (permalink)
    I encountered 2 small issues with the installation process, which may as well be noted in this thread:
      1. The Programs and Presets file path correctly found my D:\Cakewalk Content directory, but the Multisamples defaulted to C:\Cakewalk Content (which doesn't exist on my system).
      2. Using the Browse... button to pick a new directory for the Multisamplesdoesn't let me create a new directory. So although I could navigate to D:\Cakewalk Content, it wouldn't let me create D:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Sample Data. I had to go into Explorer and create that myself, then come back and try the browse operation again.
    [3. Trying to use ordered lists in this forum editor doesn't work properly.]
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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 11:13:55 (permalink)
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    It is a new, free synth.



    Just a small correction...it is free to members. However, it costs $29.95 if purchased outside of the membership program, e.g., the AAX version for Pro Tools users, or AU for Logic.

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    Re: KIngston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 11:19:33 (permalink)
    Anderton
    Just a small correction...it is free to members. However, it costs $29.95 if purchased outside of the membership program, e.g., the AAX version for Pro Tools users, or AU for Logic.



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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/26 16:31:57 (permalink)
    dappa1
    My projects with SC is making a screeching sound how do I replace those projects with rapture using the same instruments if SC is obsolete.


    Same here. Tiome to get rid of it.


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    Re: Kingston_Rapture Session - surprisingly nice 2015/11/29 14:03:08 (permalink)
    Just installed this yesterday ... very impressed and happy to have it in the toolkit.
    It's great to have the DimPro, Classic Rapture, CSC and third-party libraries all available in the same browser!

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